WEBVTT 1 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.209 Okay. 2 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:00:02.209 --> 00:00:16.327 Okay. Okay, let's call the meeting to order, get approval of the minutes 20 17th 2024. Ocean. 2nd on favor, close. 3 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:00:17.189 --> 00:00:20.824 It's property acquisitions. 4 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:00:20.824 --> 00:00:40.260 Hey sarah or Paul? Yes, I want. I don't know if you can. 5 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:00:40.260 --> 00:00:55.453 There we are. You can hear me? Okay. Please. Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. 6 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:00:55.453 --> 00:01:11.809 I can't hear you Lisa. Can you hear Paul? 7 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:01:11.809 --> 00:01:17.473 We can hear Paul. 8 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:01:17.473 --> 00:01:18.691 Okay. 9 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:01:18.691 --> 00:01:22.747 Yeah, I just don't think I have my video. 10 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:01:22.747 --> 00:01:46.749 Okay, so real property updates, if I share my screen, well, I guess I don't need to share my screen. You all have handouts of a resolution from, this one, you have two resolutions in front of you. This one's entitled Amendment to the agreement or the purchase in sale or a feasibility period extension. 11 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:01:46.749 --> 00:01:51.487 Yes. Yep. 12 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:01:51.487 --> 00:02:20.910 So the, the purchaser of the DSA one parcel reached out to Bob and Melanie who aren't able to be here with us today, and they're wanting they had a 120 day feasibility period to do due diligence on the property that is due to expire on 4 October of 2024. And they reached out and asked if they could have a 90 day extension to 4 January. 13 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:02:20.910 --> 00:02:38.490 2024. They didn't specify why that's just a complete or oh that should be 2025. Yep. You're right Jack, I I did see your email earlier, so it's 90 day extension which will go to 4 January 2025, we'll have to make that amendment on the resolution. 14 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:53.724 And they just said they wanted, they just needed the extension, and didn't provide any further explanation. So this resolution is for you to consider granting that. 15 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:02:53.724 --> 00:03:12.431 That information but they have not supplied it yet for what else they needed to do. They still review on the site, but they have not provided it yet. So we'll check. Hi. 16 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:03:12.431 --> 00:03:18.128 So we will, make that correction of the date of 2025 and. 17 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:03:18.128 --> 00:03:25.426 Yep. Okay, thank you. Okay, next. 18 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:03:25.426 --> 00:03:43.252 Jones chemical, we're still working with the city unless Bob or Brian has an update to identify the funding source for the acquisition of the parking lot. And I think it's just tied I was kick over pogs. I think it's tied to the ESD grant. Is that right? 19 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:03:43.252 --> 00:04:06.765 What's that the Jones chemical? Well, it's tied to the reimbursement of the ESD grant, so we, we took it out of the grant and so that we can put in the, the grant reimbursement package. And then when the grants when the reimbursement comes in, then the dollars to to purchase the property. 20 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:04:06.765 --> 00:04:09.386 Any update on that Bob? 21 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:04:09.386 --> 00:04:31.148 Yeah, we've heard from a couple of times I thought we would have the the GDA by now. They, they said it was coming any day to us, so I, that was a couple of weeks ago, so I, we've started to assemble the reimbursement package, so as soon as the GDA comes in and Bob reviews it and you sign it, we, the next day we'll send in the reimbursement package. 22 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:04:31.148 --> 00:04:36.469 Okay, what's, what time frame do you think? Probably not. 23 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:04:36.469 --> 00:04:59.472 I I think yeah well once we get it into them, it's at best they're gonna pay in 60 days. So, say, you know, say we're able So I think we're, I think we're, you know, at least 60 days out, probably 75 before we get payment. 24 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:04:59.472 --> 00:05:18.535 And once we get that, once we get those dates down, then we'll Melanie just needs to plug those into the agreement with Jones chemical and they'll sign it. So we just, we, those are the missing blanks on the purchase sale agreement for Jones chemical. So we're just waiting on the dates. 25 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:05:18.535 --> 00:05:24.325 Great. Thanks Lisa. All right. National grid? 26 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:05:24.325 --> 00:05:29.383 I'm NO real updates Paul unless you have anything from them. 27 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:05:29.383 --> 00:05:50.789 And, last meeting we just talked to mostly about the trail system and what, you know, as that progresses, if we can, you know, at some point progress the, what we're calling the loop bridge or loop to harbor bridge, you know, and, and, and do this, you know, loop trail on their side, you know, on that side. 28 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:05:50.789 --> 00:06:10.789 It, it was a small parcel that we have to, you know, get an easement easement on or something, you know, for, with them. And, so I, we kind of just went over that and, they're very positive, they were very positive, you know, of the trail network idea. It really didn't impact their. 29 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:06:10.789 --> 00:06:19.677 Clean up in any way, so, you know, they're, they're positive in moving forward so I guess, you know, it was a good discussion. 30 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:06:19.677 --> 00:06:24.680 Okay. All right. 31 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:45.509 Yep, so, can I share my screen Jack? I'm gonna try. Okay, share. Trying too. Try this. Can you guys see my screen? 32 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:06:45.509 --> 00:06:47.176 Yeah. 33 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:06:47.176 --> 00:06:52.575 Yeah. 34 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:06:52.575 --> 00:07:02.902 Okay, so, we were talking with you last time we met about the city obtaining a license agreement. So you have in front of you a 2nd. 35 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:07:02.902 --> 00:07:10.712 The resolution too, but what's that? Go ahead. I just brought a couple copy. 36 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:07:10.712 --> 00:07:25.049 Okay. So this is entitled use of occupancy license agreement. So this would be between the Udica Harbor Point Development Corporation and the City of Yudica for the lands highlighted here in green. 37 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:07:25.049 --> 00:07:45.049 So it's the land around, obviously the prominod around the harbor, and the parking lots on the east side, and these green areas or that kind of protrued out are is where the road and the storm water detention basin will be for the DSA one. 38 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:07:45.049 --> 00:08:05.869 Area and the small key in the upper right hand corner, the red areas are lands that will be retained by the Utokarbor Point Development corporation. So this resolution, authorizes then to negotiate and execute. 39 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:08:05.869 --> 00:08:24.021 Do what we're calling a license agreement. So the terms and conditions will be worked out between, our council and the development corporation and the city's corp council. So this just authorizes that to happen, and what we're calling an occupancy license agreement with the city of Udica. 40 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:08:24.021 --> 00:08:28.466 Can we charge them a fee for this, Lisa? 41 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:08:28.466 --> 00:08:38.740 We have, talked about that. I think Brian, did you, you had mentioned something along those lines? 42 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:08:38.740 --> 00:09:02.266 The mayor has mentioned to me the possibility of the city paying the LDC once the property transfers yeah getting the audit paid for so I'm thinking I don't know what the price would be, but you know, 8500. 43 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:09:02.266 --> 00:09:04.083 Oh. 44 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:09:04.083 --> 00:09:11.924 Yeah, we didn't I didn't He and I didn't discuss pricing everybody's open to the conversation. Yeah, ok. 45 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:09:11.924 --> 00:09:44.144 I, I think then part of that conversation is the fact that, you know, the ESD grant is coming back to the LDC. A lot of the ESD grant was done shared services by city for with the upper money. So in a sense, the ESD reimbursement is in a sense of payment from the city if you want to look at it that way. So I think you gotta, it's all part of the in the mix. So when whatever that price is with the city, I think the ESD reimbursement's part of the discussion. 46 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:09:44.144 --> 00:09:45.723 You know. 47 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:09:45.723 --> 00:10:06.690 So yeah, I, and I, you know, it it might be nice to get, some, this is a lot of land, a lot of work, a lot of investment, it might be, you know, maybe the the reimbursement from ESD is not enough to make this, you know, to make it right. But anyway, I just wanted to remind you that's part of That should be part of the discussion. 48 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:10:06.690 --> 00:10:18.707 Okay. And we would negotiate that, as, after this, if you accept this resolution and we move forward, that would all be negotiated in that agreement going forward. 49 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:10:18.707 --> 00:10:33.887 Alright, I get a motion? 2nd load yep on favor, I can post some moves. 1917 building. It's gonna jump up. 50 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:10:33.887 --> 00:10:43.223 I, we don't have any updates. We, we meet bi weekly our team unless you heard something since we last spoke Paul and Brian. Okay. 51 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:10:43.223 --> 00:10:48.604 I, I haven't. 52 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:10:48.604 --> 00:11:23.886 Anything from Sal? I have I haven't heard from Sal in a few weeks, but, I don't know if it's on the, the pro housing grant though, the pro housing grant that we did submit with ESD again under the point development corporation does propose a certain level of improvements on the 17 building and the 33 building, so it's not just the 33 building, the 17 building in that grant application gets some treatment that would you know offset the developer's costs basically. 53 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:11:23.886 --> 00:11:52.009 And that's so the items on 1970 building in Mohawk Valley garden are kind of hand the glove right now with little VI ESD and Canal Corp grants, so is it just a reminder, a grant was submitted in July of this year, pro housing grant to help offset the cost of the redevelopment of these buildings at the harbor. And we won't know if they're selected until, probably usually the. 54 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:11:52.009 --> 00:12:00.983 December is when the grants are announced, so we'll, we're just waiting to see if we're selected and awarded these dollars. 55 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:12:00.983 --> 00:12:34.360 Yeah EST has been well Ryan Lee Grand has called a few times for clarifications, so I know the application's getting some, attention and, I I know that through efforts of too that the, you know, the, the, the governor's office has, you know, been, you know, is, has looked at this application as well. So it's getting, getting a lot of attention. 56 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:36.285 I, so. 57 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:12:36.285 --> 00:12:38.645 Hopefully hopefully hopefully it moves positive. 58 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:12:38.645 --> 00:12:56.888 So I, I agree I agree with you. We've had conversations with ESD. This is this program is well oversubscribed there's only ten whether there's $40 million statewide, so there's four different regions so it's $10 million for our region. There are 23 applicants. 59 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:12:56.888 --> 00:12:58.364 Is for our region. 60 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:12:58.364 --> 00:13:03.668 So, don't get your hopes up too high. 61 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:13:03.668 --> 00:13:07.501 Barbara, are you on the. 62 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:13:07.501 --> 00:13:12.560 No, on the winning side I'm an applicant as well, so. 63 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:13:12.560 --> 00:13:15.226 Okay competition. 64 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:13:15.226 --> 00:13:16.601 Alicia, so. 65 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:13:16.601 --> 00:13:27.178 Okay, we got the gloves. 66 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:13:27.178 --> 00:13:46.007 So it's us I'm sorry, there's ten regions, so it's $4 million per region and we were told 23 out. There's only seven or eight of all those applicants, 27 or eight were fully qualified and knowledgeable in our region. So that's gotten a little bit better. 67 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:13:46.007 --> 00:13:46.708 Oh yes. 68 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:13:46.708 --> 00:13:51.866 That's great. 69 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:13:51.866 --> 00:13:56.988 What, what was that Tim? There's seven or eight that qualified out of the submissions. 70 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:13:56.988 --> 00:13:59.065 That that met all the eligibility. 71 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:13:59.065 --> 00:14:00.994 Okay. 72 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:14:00.994 --> 00:14:28.764 Is is is that list public in terms of the qualified? We're, we're trying to keep that away from you. I'd rather rather those or bad news earlier than than later? No, I, I think that that just came through meetings, so I don't think that list is out there. Gotcha. 73 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:14:28.764 --> 00:14:30.200 Yeah. 74 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:35.922 Okay. Anyway. 75 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:14:35.922 --> 00:14:40.204 I didn't have anything else on Moham Valley garden, did you Paul? Other than that. 76 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:14:40.204 --> 00:14:59.599 And discussion? No, I know, other than, you know, coordinated with them as well, coordinate again with sales architect coordinated with the architect involved with MVG when, you know, when we put the pro housing application together so that, you know, we, we did communicate during that period quite quite a bit. 77 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:14:59.599 --> 00:15:07.923 And you know what, Paul I skipped just a general update for the prominent. Did you want to provide any updates to the LDC just in general on the. 78 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:15:07.923 --> 00:15:29.029 Yeah, we're trying, we're just trying to close this out now. We, we put the, this canoe launch in, which looks great came came great. It's, gonna be a great asset to the, for the public to, to access the the harbor with, you know, with their. 79 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:15:29.029 --> 00:15:50.069 High X and canoes, but, that's pretty much the last piece. There's a few little odds and ends that clean up items that are very, very minor, but right, we asked them to take care of, you know, one of them is, you know, we got a lot of there versus grass so we're trying to at least get them to do one more set of seating out there and try to get. 80 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:15:50.069 --> 00:16:05.459 A better grass, out there, but, then the very final item it was a new item we just added, the very final item on the contract was to After we looked at the Kaya canoe launched a little bit harder with the vendor. 81 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:16:05.459 --> 00:16:25.674 We don't think we need to pull it out in a winter is great news. We do, we do think we need these what they call ice eaters and it's, it's a system that turns up the water around the Kayak canoe launch over the winter so that the ice doesn't freeze around the around the. 82 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:16:25.674 --> 00:16:29.398 That will allow it to. 83 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:16:29.398 --> 00:16:35.911 That's what you put around here. This one's a little the the bubble yeah yeah there are bubblers and this is. 84 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:16:37.306 --> 00:16:43.791 Kind of creates more of a flow action, so they're similar, but same idea. 85 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:16:43.791 --> 00:16:46.425 We've peters. 86 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:16:46.425 --> 00:16:53.875 It's NO, we, we've gotta it's a it's gotta be plugged in, but we've gotta, we have outlets set up for this nearby. 87 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:16:53.875 --> 00:17:02.931 Good Nick question on that point, did we put that up for bid or who's the vendor? How did the vendor get selected? 88 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:17:02.931 --> 00:17:24.272 The vendor, it was all part of the contract that we bid out with Mohawk Valley materials. So Mohak Valley materials, you know, chose the vendor under their construction contract. We didn't do it separately, it was all under the umbrella of the construction contract that the MVM was the prime. 89 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:17:24.272 --> 00:17:30.653 I mean they're not gonna be in charge of it, you're saying they just put it in, right? And that they're not gonna run it. 90 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:17:30.653 --> 00:17:39.632 No, NO NO NO, we don't, there's NO at this point. Exactly. Yeah, now we don't have an operator. 91 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:17:39.632 --> 00:17:56.059 Are we are are we doing anything on the legal end of it if if they use it, do they have to sign a piece of paper if they go down our ramp to, to use it and then so we don't get stuff. City's working on it. 92 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:17:56.059 --> 00:18:04.582 No, I don't know that, but I would say when we're not gonna do it now because nobody can get in there, the city's gonna take it over. Sorry we should give them a little heads up on it. 93 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:18:04.582 --> 00:18:13.161 Yeah, I think that could be part of the negotiation of the license agreement Jack, probably, yeah. So that's a, yeah, good point. We can bring that up. 94 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:18:13.161 --> 00:18:29.203 We gotta negotiate this agreement gave that we approved right there. So I'm sorry to step off of the call. 95 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:18:29.203 --> 00:18:37.218 We just we talked about ESD, I don't have any update on the. 96 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:18:37.218 --> 00:18:50.281 Canal Corp, and Brian had probably the closest one to that, but I don't think we've heard anything on the $2 million grant, which is a little bit, it's getting starting to get a little distressing, but. Hey Brian, you got any. 97 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:18:50.281 --> 00:18:53.382 I haven't heard a word. 98 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:18:53.382 --> 00:19:22.669 Okay. It's important because it's a match under the pro housing grant application. So, you know, it can now or really needs to come through with their commitment on that. You know, we we've certainly, we've sent them a ton of emails, I think they're very they they've sent, they know the EST application, they know they're a match, they underst they like the ESD application. 99 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:19:22.669 --> 00:19:34.000 I, I mean I, I we've, we've communicated them, we communicate we've done the communications to a point where they, they really understand how important they are in the mix. So hopefully they're gonna come through. 100 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.913 Did we call the Algorp with the mayor or something? 101 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:19:38.913 --> 00:19:44.201 Okay. Yeah. 102 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:19:44.201 --> 00:19:47.521 Alright, CFI A. 103 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:19:47.521 --> 00:19:53.859 Yeah, that we did cover that. Okay. That's the pro housing grant. 104 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:19:53.859 --> 00:20:13.739 DRI, the the state has opened another round of DRI applications since the vitalization initiative because the city has been so successful along with his partners in implementing the the award that was given in 2019. They've encouraged us to apply for a 2nd one. 105 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:20:13.739 --> 00:20:32.999 This is the 1st round of the state of accepting applications from communities that already have one, you know, likely because they're running out of communities that haven't gotten one, but be that as of meg. It's $10 million, so regardless of the reason, we'll still go go after it. We have submitted a notice of intent to apply. 106 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:20:32.999 --> 00:20:50.129 In discussions with the mayor, we're gonna focus on the West neighborhood, the area around the odd, but that could stretch up to the to the harbor as well and and maybe even east towards the train station pacemaker a little bit but that application is due to. 107 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:20:50.129 --> 00:21:06.689 18 October at 04:00, when would they sorry who is the 1st year? Late this year early next year, it's really the will of the governor when she decides to call her nothing. 108 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:21:06.689 --> 00:21:26.689 It is all or not. There's ten regions, one each will be announced in each region, so Do you need anything from us, Brian or it's just information? It doesn't require a resolution. I'll probably put together a draft of letter of support our EC letterhead for. 109 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:21:26.689 --> 00:21:48.629 Your signature to go in with the application alright great and I would look and I would probably look to include the 1917 building, the 1933 building individually as projects. As part of the application we have to put together a list of potential projects totaling. 110 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:21:48.629 --> 00:22:06.299 In the neighborhood of 15 million has some confidence that if they were the 10 million, it'll be some more, it'll go out the door. Right, got it. Okay, good. Going to be nice. Alright, any other business, any new business? 111 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:22:06.299 --> 00:22:09.973 Yeah, guys, we gotta get out of here in 4 min. 112 "Lisa Nagle" (1928962048) 00:22:09.973 --> 00:22:14.537 So, NO, I think, I think that's it from us. 113 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (294809856) 00:22:14.537 --> 00:22:24.561 No. Thanks, everybody. 114 "Romano" (1350143744) 00:22:24.561 --> 00:22:27.084 Thank you.