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He's there right? We're doing the annual meeting first. Yes. Yeah so, annual meeting first. So it's called meeting to order. Can I get had approval of the minutes of January? Fifteen th, twenty twenty.

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We'll be on this one. Correct? Some of Brian.

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Favor favor. Hi, Mike says I. alright.

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Edification of all actions taken from April. One to March. Thirty one. Can I get a motion on that? I got it first from Joe Beatrice. Second in France.

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Second from Brian Thomas. Well, they were all right. Closed.

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So moved information on board members. Are there any changes there check the mayor wants to propose or? No, no we're all good. Like we are. Alright.

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Can I get a motion from the board members?

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Motion motion by brain Thomas,

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I can even quicker around later because we're gonna we're gonna wait for the whole meeting while we're working as fast as we can.

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I'll cover.

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We want to post.

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So moved, so, I mean, there's no old a new business. Can I get a motion to adjourn to move to the regular meeting Frank? Yeah, but I think motion. Yep Brian.

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Brian had a first. Was there a second there you go?

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Is that.

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Okay,

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so we're all right regular meeting regular meeting the order in here somewhere yeah.

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Minutes for the January. Fifteen. Th, and may fourth meetings will be presented at the next meeting. Okay.

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So approve February nineteen th, okay. I get a motion to approve the February nineteen th, meeting minutes.

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Eva Avon first second, right? One second yeah. Second.

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Sorry,

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Brian Tom,

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a second,

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I'm gonna go through a quick list of the documents that needed to be that everybody had reviewed for the public authority serve in number three under action.

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The procurement policy,

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the investment policy,

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the bylaws,

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the mission statement operations and accomplishments and mission mission and measurement report an assessment of internal controls of which were sent to everybody previously

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things that send a full compliance with the public authorities law check.

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Correct? And just as a quick update, I, the auditor is going to be I provided all the while ninety five percent of all of the information that the auditor had requested. He is going to come in on the twenty third.

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Next Tuesday to finalize any other last minute questions that he has and then I'm looking to have him provide me with a draft of the audit.

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And I'll provide that to Vin I will say is the most qualified to review.

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I don't think that there's going to be any issues and then to hopefully have a a final out to everybody by month.

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And so,

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if we can do that,

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and then with these public authority documents,

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and also the other information that I put into the parents system,

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we should be in compliance without needing to go the extension that was provided by the state.

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So while I'm just trying to keep us off the naughty list and their status preferring was preferring that everybody comply with the original dates booked if you do,

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need it because of the commitment and just not being able to meet on a timely basis.

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Then you, you can be granted that, but I try to keep everybody in compliance right from the get go.

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Okay, perfect. Can I get a motion to approve all the authority documents? So we get a file.

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I got it, it will be trust first. I got.

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Likewise one hour did he really? Second favor? I so moved committee updates partners. What's up Lisa?

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Paul I'll I'll lead us through so you have provided a memo update to for the meeting so these are updates to that memo we have from the consult

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team Alison.

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Paul myself, Bob and Melanie, and we're gonna go write down the agenda. We're gonna start with canal Corporation. We've had a number of phone calls with them canal Corp and, and I'm gonna kick it over to Melanie for an update there.

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Thanks, Lisa. I'll, I'll get the update on canal core, so we did have a meeting and canal Corp sent over a revised contract.

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They had two major changes in the contract one being that they want to push out occupancy from March twenty, twenty one until August. Twenty twenty one.

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So that's the first issue. The second issue is.

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They want to keep that well, they have to work there. They have to stay there under an occupancy permit or occupancy agreement and they're intending. I'm leaving their equipment in the nineteen thirty three building will remove it with sixty days advance.

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Notice from the LTC. And then the third, the third one was.

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The condition of the nineteen thirty three building on conveyance and the technical team over at canal corporate,

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I believe,

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had the call with Paul and maybe Lisa to to go through some of the conditions in the building,

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and how it would be conveyed.

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So that has been put into the contract, and it just needs to be internally review before it's agreed upon. So, I don't know Paul, if you want to speak to what? That condition of the building is relative to specifice and mold.

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And I think electrical, there's a couple in the memo that I sent right before this call, which has the condition Adam put together. I think Paul has it. Yeah, I did. Why just keep it simple?

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I mean, the, you know, they're gonna still do the mold payment and they'll do a specialist only if they need to do in conjunction with them all to the rescue as best as, you know, is will be left to the just like any other building.

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They, they would convey the, they will close the spell number and give us documentation. There was a spill that happen in the Halloween storm.

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And electrical is, you know, there's really not anything there other than they're gonna keep to some pumps running and then the electrical service will be moved over.

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From, you know, canal Corp to yeah, how do you see it?

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At some point, when it's transferred, That'll move the responsibility to pay that electrical to the the only thing cause with them.

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What we came up with is they really don't. It would it would be a lot easier for them, the canal Corp on the mold issue.

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If they knew that we're planning to demolish the addition on the backside of the three,

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three building on the field side,

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which was in later addition and laughs.

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I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, that was a later addition.

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It's, it's a wood structure edition at least, and I need to confirm that Shippo has no interest in it. We don't think they do and that would make it easier for canal Corp.

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so in good spirits and good partnership, we're gonna try to confirm that.

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And we've also talked to the developer, how do you see speaking to an El has no interest in that edition. So, that was one thing that came out of discussions with them is kind of meeting them that way.

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The rest of the stuff is equipment,

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just making sure that there's some equipment that might need to be moved later than,

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anything that needs to be moved on the equipment will be tagged and logged.

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So, anything that's there that maybe is there after the transfer that will be removed later. We'll have a tag on it from canal Corp that says that this is a piece of equipment that will be moved.

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Are they starting work on any anymore? Oh, now the bulk of the bulk the cap on the bulk and walls is complete. Okay.

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So that, I believe Paul is outside of some last minute punch list items for all intents and purposes off the site. Right?

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So, we're doing the punch list items, and we still need a meeting with the owner to go over that. You know, they have a couple of claims that we need to resolve.

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So, we need to set up that meeting by WebEx or whatever, do the punch list. But, yes, we're moving towards closing out that contract.

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Then I would just add to cause we have been focusing on the March twenty, twenty one and they're now asking him to stay there until August twenty, twenty one and under partners.

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We have Mohawk Valley garden if I can skip National grid for a minute,

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because they're there obviously,

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and they,

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we spoke with Rob on they,

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Monday afternoon,

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and they're looking to start their design work in the summer of twenty one to go to construction.

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Twenty two, so them staying on that site until August.

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It doesn't present a problem with Rob's schedule the mbd schedule, if does have to get on that.

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And maybe Melanie to confirm empty does need to act like, they would perhaps have to get a work permit from canal court.

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And canal Corp is aware of all of this so we don't see, it isn't an issue that it's now pushed to August of twenty one, right?

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And we actually had canal Corp add that provision to the contract just so that we were clear that that might, or you have to get on site, right? They gotta be out of it.

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what well,

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it,

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they're saying August twenty,

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twenty one,

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but I think,

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that's their best guess right now,

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based on their relocation plans,

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and they're willing to put it in the contract there.

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Sorry if you repeat that last sentence.

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Just that they were willing to put that August twenty one, twenty, twenty one date into the contract. So, you know, it's somewhat of a commitment from them.

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They were asking the to understand that, you know, to work with them.

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It's delays that they feel were cause of covet that, you know, they were hopeful that, you know, we talked about March and June, but it just became unrealistic. You know, the covet situation.

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Are we gonna take title to their property? In the meantime? Yes. Yeah. Melanie, we can, we can start talking about closing as soon as we sign the contract.

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Are we comfortable with that at this point Paul to closing on it? I mean, the wall, any risk analysis is done, is it all is a sight all cleaned up? Yeah.

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As long as we, you know, we go through these items as long as the mold situation is taken care of in the spill number closed, then yes, we could proceed with transferring it.

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And then whatever the lease back can stand at least back is not only in Bob telling me, but.

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You know, that that can start to happen and when we look at August twenty, twenty one, is that a firm date or is that negotiating from there?

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It's it's gonna be, I think, I mean, they're putting it in the contract, so everyone's proceeding with that expectation.

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You know, another yeah, that's a good question given, you know, in New York state finances and and, and the ability for the state to fund the new facility, you know, who knows?

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I think they're probably exasperated themselves and just want to put a date in there and probably have resolved amongst themselves that if we can't get out by then, you know, what we'll have to renegotiate. That's probably, you know, on the back room what they decided.

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I don't know if we'd want to do this, but we.

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We maybe we put some damages or or some rent in there. If they don't leave by August. Now, of course, they can't promise that either. So I'm just throwing it out there to the group.

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You know, my worst case scenario is they'll squat there after August and it could adversely impact anything we're trying to do. We might have a better chance to remove them.

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If we had contracts that had deliberately contingent on you to come our on the canal court being vacated by then.

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So, you know, if that was the case, we'd be in a stronger position to force them out, because we would have real damages, but it's a, it's a dance here.

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I suppose we, you know, if we throw in damages around that, then then then we're gonna introduce months of delay because they'd have to get that approved by their board and, and, you know, more of bureaucracy or we accept it.

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Recognize that that's what the agreement says. It's an enforceable right and if we move full speed ahead, and actually have a need to have them vacate August, you know, we would let them know that well in advance, which would, you know, force them, push them to get out of there.

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So so what kind of delay I mean, if we ask for damages or the clause or something like that, I'm gonna move until August anyways.

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So, I mean well, yeah, what can we go back and let them let it stay the way it is, where they're still in there and all the bills and.

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So, we get some kind of hammer of some sort to use with them. They may ignore it but at least, you know, just to be clear, they're only going to be staying in the two buildings. There they are vacating for the most part.

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The nineteen thirty, they're not using that they need parking and the two out buildings. So I don't know how that plays into future plans, but.

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They felt to me, I got the impression that they felt comfortable with that August date, and we're willing to put it in the contract. Let me add to that.

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I just sent it around to a bunch of people canal Corp actually put on an expression of interest.

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For their new facility, it came out on the ninth and it's due.

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I don't see the due date here, but it's due in a few weeks here. So they're looking for a consultant to finish the design for that facility. They're gonna go. They're moving to Frank for. I think that's like nineteen.

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So, I, they're they're pretty. They're pretty serious. And it looks like they're, they're money's committed.

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Due date this Friday on Friday. Okay.

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Okay, well we can go get the contract wrapped up done.

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So taking on the mission of the, the back part are we taking on that? Or are we pushing that on time? Dj.

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With the demo say that again the sorry, Brian, what you're thinking in terms of who's their responsibility for the demolition of the back office part? Is that L. D c's responsibility?

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Are we gonna push that on to.

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That's part of it's a, it's a small structure. I was, we were gonna try to put it into the CSA the next with state dollars.

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Okay, you know, I I guess it depends, you know, so there's a bunch items that we would try to get in this state state dollars and all this all plays into the sale costs of the property.

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The more they certain things that the developer doesn't do. Then, you know, then probably the can get more money from from the developer on the, the purchase of property.

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And so I think, you know, I think that all gets taken into account in the negotiation of the sales price.

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Okay, national grid no updates on the substation.

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There's a new,

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our main person they're retired,

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Mike,

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but we have a new contact person,

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and we haven't gotten any updates from them,

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although now I'm gonna kick it over to Paul,

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because they're looking at trying to put a crane crane near the bulk had walls.

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So, Paul, you want to explain that situation.

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Jack, can you put up can you share that?

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Yep, one of those one of those national let's see what email it is staging area. Yeah. Try that. One hang on a second is one with two boxes.

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The two different locations.

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Can everyone see that? I don't know.

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Help you got to hit share then pick the right screen. Okay. Hang on. Let me do it.

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Sorry folks.

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Well, well, just trying to get that up so they basically, they they've got, they've proposed two different location. One of them is away from the bucket while it's on the National grid side.

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It's where they were, they launched their boats already.

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The other one was near our wall and they can now car forwarded this information to us to hopefully can display and we're taking a look at.

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I, I can't show it because it says that I'm recording and that's one of the things that blocks me from sharing.

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I think I can share mine. I apologize, thank you. Oh, okay.

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I just wanna say to, for those on the line if you move your mouse over to the left hand side, there's a magnifying glass. And if you click on the plus one and all zoom in, it will zoom in for you.

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I'll make this thing as I can, but if it's still too small, you can zoom in also on your end.

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So,

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I sent back to Joe Maloney,

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I can now clarify say,

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can't you just sell National grid to use option a,

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and I don't wanna bother with this,

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you know,

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being this bar,

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you know,

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this crane being near our wall and Joe said,

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well,

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you know,

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if it wasn't I said,

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it's gonna be in the way of the road project,

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basically.

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And then he said, if what if they, they screwed it down towards the other corner would that be okay? And I said, well, and then we need to talk to our structural engineers. So.

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I kicked it over to our structural guys and they're taking a look at what would might be a safe distance from the wall event's National grid to tell them a little bit more about the loads and, you know, that's where I'm at. And that's where we're at.

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We're waiting for national grid to give us some more information about the loads. My concern is more than the structural more than the lot load narrow wall.

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My concern more is if they drop something on our new cap and chip it or whatever, aesthetically heard it where the repair would never be would look as good as the.

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Existing wall, so.

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And if you had haven't had a chance to go and look at, it is, it is very, very nice and great. Yeah. Yeah. So.

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You know, we can come back to, I don't know if there's any action we want to do, unless you want to tell them, you know, no deal on option B whatsoever. We're not we're not entertaining that.

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Or, if we wait until they give us the load information, get information from our structural engineer, I mean, we could basically say, you know.

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Option B, the LTC needs more information to sign off on it.

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Yeah, I mean, we want to play nice for them because they know they're gonna move there station so I'd rather have Monday, but if they can protect us on me, and it helps with what we're trying to accomplish with them. That's fine too. So yeah.

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Why don't we suggest we'll give him option be? As long as they give us a permit for all the, the land we're looking for for the recreational area.

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Perfect that was the semi joke. Laughs laughs. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Yeah.

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Tell Joe that, that, you know, we need more information will still entertain it with information from the engineers. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Garden.

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Yeah, we had a good meeting with them. We are. We're starting to lay out obligations for the.

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Lbc Valley and the joint obligation and right now we're working with Brian and Jack to get an appraisal of that property. We'd like to have that appraisal done in July.

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Then we'll get the contracts going to convey the property to them. Hopefully have the contract in place in September.

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And we'll have to subdivide out the property that, that we put into the request for expressions of interest. This is about two point seven, nine acres to. I'd like to do that in September as well.

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Then at my notes.

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We are currently also on the on the L. B. C. we were awarded or the city was awarded a grant from department of state in two thousand.

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Team, I think for the design of the prominent and those surface treatments and all of that around on on the new focus. Well, so that's part of the LBC obligations.

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We are advancing that design right now and over the next LBC meetings should have something to share with. You really just got started in that effort.

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While gardens is starting to look at designing in starting their design work in.

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First quarter first the second quarter of twenty, twenty one finishing their design work in the first quarter, twenty, twenty two and really looking to start the construction in the fall of twenty two.

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So it's a little ways out of course. But that's okay, because we have all the other moving parts with canal Corp, in terms of getting that property ready for there. First covet affected a lot of different things.

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But the, but they're still committed to moving forward and are excited about the project.

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So will set up another meeting at Paul and I, our intention last Monday was really just to kind of regroup after kind of almost posting pandemic and talk with Bob or Rob.

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And so, what I'll do is refine the milestone schedule.

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And then then I suggest, maybe we get the property committee subcommittee together, and we'll just keep in touch when we get these back for that property, we'll subcommittee meeting with them.

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Alright, design, engineering bulk.

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Ultimate interest, I have to get the good guys. I got, I got it another thing with work.

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Signing off, Joe do we have anymore? Do we have anymore?

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We have any more actions to take Jack. Nope, no, I have no actions on my part. I, I'll go to Paul Lisa and yourself to see if there's anything out there that we just have updates.

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Yep.

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Over the state now. Okay. Alright.

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The bulk head, Walter, just reporting that they're complete laughs. Big deal.

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We wanted some pictures up,

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but we weren't able to get them in time for today's meeting,

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but I don't know Allison if we want to do any try to do anything of when we can meet in person or or I guess any,

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any of you can go down and look at the walls,

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but apparently they're beautiful.

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And I are meeting with the tomorrow tomorrow at ten. So there'll be an interview. So hopefully there'll be good footage then. Is that gonna be live or just a recording.

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Recording record, and I was gonna see if are photographer can come down at the same time and just try to capture some photos. I'm sure he would love to do that. Oh, I'll take Paul. Go, Brian. Maybe publicly.

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So, yeah, and he's got a drone actually, which would be kinda cool seeing from coming in from the water.

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Yeah, oh, gotcha. Yeah, although have a drone and makes me a little nervous, but good.

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Yeah, the only unfortunate thing is that well, unfortunately or fortunately, I mean, the weather has been so dry and water levels, way way down from the average water level that the main water level.

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So so, the wall, the entire cap is showing, where is in some of the sheet pile showing. So normally you wouldn't see the sheet pile at all.

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You would just see the nice concrete well, that that's the only bombers, you know, you don't really get a feel for what it's gonna look like normally, but it still looks great but just the water level is definitely a plane with the aesthetics a little bit.

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So, I mean, Alison, you make sure the camera setup gets a good angle well, back out, like, in a couple of weeks as well.

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So, some better ones but okay. And then punch list items that Paul's working through with them, but largely almost a hundred percent finish there.

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But lump security. Paul. You wanna go over that temporary. We're just trying to keep people out until we get the other project going the road project going. And we put a temporary fence, and along the end, the wells dev.

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It's already been tampered with a couple times. We kind of put it back in place. The title. Good has as the temporary fence subcontractor to go back out and see if they can secure a better but, you know, people keep people keep going in there.

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Mike Mahoney did notify you to could please, I did have a conversation with one of the unit policemen the other day, who was on that route was who polices that area and he was going to make it part of his normal routine.

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But so we are trying to keep it people out of there. Hopefully, we'll get a little bit better secured but, you know, these, to get back there and fish they really are.

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And I don't know if, you know, we're just not gonna keep everybody out, but at least we've got the signs up and get the fencing.

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We're doing everything we can, you know, and I don't think that's the area for boat launch, because I don't think that's a great area to get people in and out of there, because around a bus right there.

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So, in the end of the day, when we designed the marina launch, we're probably we're National grid. Has it right now on the other side versus over there?

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So, anyway, we're working through those issues. The fencing is I texted on to the nineteen seven team, the temporary fence that nineteen seventeen building found in foundation contract, because we want to close the buckets.

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So, I didn't want a temporary fence situation, you know, ongoing while we're trying to close this contract. We shouldn't have, you know, items need to be closed out.

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In seventeen building, we are working through there. We didn't get we thought we'd have a change order before this meeting or a proposal from Tyler before this meeting.

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Hopefully, the proposal fits into the contingency contingency amount we have, but they're just, you know, when we raised the building up and you can inspect it in detail. Now, hand over hand, underneath in the undercarriage, we found some problems that need to be fixed.

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We have a plan from our structural engineers if how to fix that and toga has enough information to put a cost together to do that. So, these are the four beams, you know, there's nothing to do with the new foundation. It's the four beams.

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The seventeen structure. Some of them are missing. Some of them are cricket. Some of them are rotted, you know, so I had to get a detailed plan and how to fix those.

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Do you say one? Really, right now we're just trying to get through the wetland permit. We're having a bit of trouble with the Buffalo core, you know, they, they, they have a, it's same thing to happen in data center.

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You know, they, they feel that he sees that that is not the route final developer, and at the resume conceptual level documents.

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And and that's not what they want to do, they want to review final documents to see if things can be moved around and et cetera, et cetera. We're working through that with them.

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We're gonna show them that there's not there's maybe two different road options, and both of those mean that those things need to go away. We, we already preserved the best area of wetlands.

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So I've been working with lease. I'm working with Steve.

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I clear to try to get this the wetland permit through we need the permit before we start fill in some more before we start to fill that some more simultaneously.

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We're getting soil samples we're looking at so quick phase,

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two profit now to see if that will work for us,

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the National Center soils the network for us because they mix too much shale in the souls.

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They took off an innocent data center. Sales are the sales. Are a problem, because the sales are expandable. We can't use it on our site, because it could screw up parking lots.

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It could heave screw building foundations. So, we're looking at another sole source now and and now in White's town for the to the second part of this quite creek project.

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So, hopefully that so can be will meet our criteria and be able to brought over to dsa one.

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And that's the, you know, once we get this, all moved over there and spread out, that's the last of the, what we need to do under that original. Go ahead. With the.

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Okay, or is it if you get that picture, I can do it again.

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Okay, do you see that? Yup.

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So this is out in the streets it's out to bid I'd say,

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because it's Department of state monies that so only municipality can can get those monies and the way we wrote the memorandum of understanding with.

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City view to care the city finances, public infrastructure components, and then finances the prep activities related to private development. So this fits into the the city side.

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So this is the city of Utica project, but, you know, obviously there's a, there's one one thing about this, that this is pretty similar to everything you've seen.

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I guess it's just, I might've mentioned two things, you know, you, you can see how we're trying to finish off the landscaping. It's there now, with the play, like, cut concrete and make it look like a barn block and then the brick pavers and the landscaping.

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We're finishing that area out and we're putting, you know, crosswalk connections to the other side. It's over here.

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We've got a we've got an entrance being designed into thirty, thirty three parcel that is looking at.

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We have another entrance designed into the home too,

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and how they in lots that we hope that visions will want to use because it's it's a great entrance utilize there for,

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for both access to both those hotels.

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So that seems like in both your parking, lots, your level in that area. So I would hope that they would take advantage of that.

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The round about you can see,

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we didn't put the legs on it because we,

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we,

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there's two different configurations obviously,

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the LTC and I think,

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our master plan prefers a loop configuration where you put two more legs on this.

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I I suppose the developer could come in with just one more leg and come up in the middle of the site and do a call the SEC or something like that less desirable. We believe.

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But so we didn't want to finish the legs until the developer got in through back here. But that's the one thing we'll do with the core of engineers.

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We're going to show them the two different options, because that's basically what it is, two different options in both of them impact the wetlands that are over here in a way that they really can't stay.

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So, but anyway, that's that's what we did with the, and it saved us some money that building out these legs and we don't want to build something that we need to rip out later.

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So, this, once I kind of start Paul, probably mid July, this, you know, we've got about eight bidders on this well, a plan holders. We don't know if all of them are bid, but a plan holders have picked up.

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this,

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this orange thing,

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as a ten foot trail,

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so that picks up to ten foot from our entrance road from our entrance and at ten foot,

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if you had been done or tennessee's free now that you see the doing well,

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their work there,

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they're they're putting this ten foot sidewalk all the way up,

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and then over the same over the broad and John street bridge,

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and to connect to watch bro street.

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So that's really the Ray hill trail connection that we'll bring into our site and bring it all the way to the Roundabout. So it's that's pretty exciting. This parking lot here is right now asphalt is very cheap.

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We hoping we're gonna get some good prices given the timing of this. It opened up an opportunity to while under budget to do a little bit more. So we put a parking lot in here as an alternative.

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It's not, it's, it's it can be deleted from the project that it could be awarded or, you know, as an alternative. You can award it or you might not award it. You might decide not to award it again.

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It's a city beautiful project, but I would think the city of would file the recommendation on whether, you know, the considered the price, the alternative considered the budget and determine if this lot to go here.

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If they want in here,

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one of the criticism,

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one of the things we got all along was we got a lot of complaints about not having parking programmed in this gives us I think like twenty eight spots or something.

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It's an area that.

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You know, we have this line of sight, the line of sight restriction we have from visions over here. So there's nothing that can be built in their line of sight. So, the round about, in the parking lot are low and able to see over.

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I think Lisa put parking on the water, but, you know, this could be, I think, from lisa's perspective a convertible space for activities as well. It doesn't have to be just the parking lot.

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Yeah, back on the and because, you know, it's water front, right? And you don't want to get the car is the best view.

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We now have, you know, the grant to design the whole prom and then the, you know, the service treatment, the light benches, you know, banners, et cetera.

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And so if this were to come in at a price, that seems reasonable.

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There may be a way that we could design this so that it could be easily converted with, like, easy up tense or something like that for any type of federal space and use for parking part of the time.

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But specials are gathering areas, et cetera for other times. That was my compromise.

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You know, you do need some parking, I think, with marketing this seven team building, which is looking great. Now, that's all straightened out. There's a lot of room for pedestrian.

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And again, when we do design and bring in the lighting and the features, there's a lot of room for public is kind of tucked back here. So it gave us an opportunity.

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You know, I think that, you know, I would love to see the visions give back up to this other plot over here for parking as well. At some point. Maybe there's a deal to be made.

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But, I mean, you know, it still need some more parking help. You know, for the, for the marina for the, you know, for the harbor, but.

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So, yeah, I think that's everything. I, it's a, it's a nice little project. It certainly brings us to the next step and then, you know, right now we're leaving it, you know, there's gonna be would take the temporary fence and we'll put some a more secure fencing at the end of this.

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Because this would be a re, completed road and probably won't be able to be opened up as soon as it's done and scan it by. But you need to be restricted until such time.

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And now, carp is out of there, and we sort out the liabilities associated with a better access to the lanes and when everything else. So it's gonna be built and then restricted access for a little while anyway.

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So good. Yeah. Divisions.

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Where are we on the visions property? Anybody? Yeah, I can jump on and on that.

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So I just wanted to clarify one thing that Paul said when you talked about construction of that round about, did you say this July like, next month? Right?

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So, I guess following along with that, we had we have been going back and forth with visions attorney. He did the circulator revised contract that talk about the height restriction and site line.

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And he was pretty clear that he wanted his language in the contract. So, we just wanted to confirm that what he presented in that contract is is actually what the LBC agreed to and Lisa. I don't know if you can pull up that figure.

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Yeah, I was looking for it, so yeah. Alright. I got.

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Yeah, no, go ahead and bring up a second. Okay. So, we just need to make sure that what Rob is asking, is actually what the LBC agreed when it works for their plans. We, you know, we did have some concerns.

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He had mentioned a six foot height restriction and we didn't know if there were lamp posts. That would be in the way or some kind of road something having to do with the roadway. That would somehow violate that.

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So, I think we just need to work through what that restrict how that restriction should be worded before we agreed to it.

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Yeah,

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we were yeah,

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the blue,

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if you recall,

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so this yellow area is the new what we call a new parcel and then Patel attempts purchase this and build a hotel so they didn't want anything in their line of sight to the water.

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So, we agreed to dedicate an area here and this is where they don't want anything over sixteen height, but we do have to we may have a, I don't think we'll have a traffic light, but like, polls, et cetera. So, traffic safety devices.

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I think we have to. It's but in part of the filling and grading plan that or Brian and get put together this whole area. We're gonna set aside for storm water treatment. But, it also is involved with the wetlands. So, it's a little little complicated that way.

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But we don't see an issue of.

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Trying to restrict the height structures in that area.

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Does it matter that he talks about the current grading of the site? Like the, the, the fact that it wouldn't be sixty higher than it is right now? Does that play into the discussion?

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Well,

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the grading doesn't raise it six feet,

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but,

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I think again,

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we can clarify that,

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and it's simply clarify that in the language there,

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you know,

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that no new structures above six feet except this does not include filled does not include light poles or overhead electric or,

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you know,

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I think we can simply put put that in there to clarify it.

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Okay. And then the, the one other thing he wanted is for LTC to provide a survey, a boundary survey of that restricted area area as well as the legal description. So, I don't know if that's something that Delta can do for us. Well, we wanna do.

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We need to do that before the need then in this purchase agreement to well, he's, he's adding it as a condition of the purchase agreement. So that he can clearly define what the restricted area is with a description and a survey.

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We need this thing really fair.

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So I know, so I, that that's the second part of this problem or this contract issue first is the fact that we've got a contract that's signed by the city hotels has not yet signed it due to Rob's comments.

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So, I guess once we clarify the restrictive covenants that he needs and confirm that, maybe we can move past that get the contract signed. We have a draft contract out to the city.

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For conveyance back to the, but that has its own issue with the roadway and if we want to carve out the roadway or need it back to the city later. So probably, I know you, and I spoke about that.

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I don't know if we have to resolve it right now,

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but I would say the easiest thing to do is at this point,

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because I don't think we realized at the time that this is department state grant,

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and it's the city,

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you might,

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you're better off constructing roadway what's city view to owning that parcel and then it can convey whatever's leftover outside the city right away back to DC.

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Okay. So that's important. Because Kate was thinking, she was going to flip it like, literally a minute after the city acquired it, it would be turned back over to D. C. but it sounds like maybe that's not way to proceed given the road construction.

354
00:48:33.594 --> 00:48:35.695
Right right. I get it. Flip to. D. C.

355
00:48:36.684 --> 00:48:49.800
can you get it flipped to city and then do the work and then you gotta get the road dedicated officially and then and then take care of the portion. Okay.

356
00:48:50.304 --> 00:48:52.434
So while that sorry.

357
00:48:53.280 --> 00:49:04.764
Paul, I assume the road is being built to face back. Absolutely. Yup. It was fully reviewed by by Jean and the engineering department. Cause that would hold up us taking ownership of it.

358
00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:11.219
Right now the engineering department was was involved all the way through. Perfect.

359
00:49:12.414 --> 00:49:26.155
So, how is it possible that, while the road is being constructed on city property we could also address the, what I believe is a subdivision issue to create the new parcel that will ultimately go to patel's entity.

360
00:49:27.534 --> 00:49:38.304
Because I don't we have a description of that yet. Yeah. So if I'm sending him out there, I'll get him get them both. We, you know, we have to new parts.

361
00:49:38.304 --> 00:49:49.945
So, we'll have again, we'll have to determine, probably was where the city, right away and I want to make some we'll figure that out. I guess we can kind of get out there and have him do both.

362
00:49:50.699 --> 00:50:05.394
It just, you know, we weren't anticipating that doing that. We didn't know there was gonna be a delay, so I gotta, I thought they were just gonna attach this drawing and we'd be fine, you know, that we didn't need a legal boundary.

363
00:50:05.965 --> 00:50:08.605
Well, I mean, I'm, I'm happy to go back to him. The first.

364
00:50:08.605 --> 00:50:10.224
We heard of it was last week so,

365
00:50:10.465 --> 00:50:10.735
I mean,

366
00:50:10.735 --> 00:50:18.414
maybe we can put him off on that and he's gonna want something though I guess there's a third part in that is some sort of letter of intent or some,

367
00:50:18.715 --> 00:50:29.934
some guarantee or assurance that upon acquiring the balance of the visions parcel will convey new parcel to the new Patel entity.

368
00:50:30.510 --> 00:50:44.635
So, maybe that's just as simple as a letter of intent or well moment it's about. And we talked about this too. Of course, the irony there is to do that. Yes. Party agreement with the city, and we drafted it and then they didn't want to do that.

369
00:50:44.635 --> 00:50:52.525
So now they actually want what we wanted to do two years ago, but notwithstanding any of that wouldn't the one a purchase sale agreement.

370
00:50:53.574 --> 00:50:56.394
Executed to convey new parcel.

371
00:50:57.539 --> 00:51:07.795
Satisfy that, or are we, or should we just do a letter of intent and then deal with that purchase sale agreement later? What do we think the most efficient thing to do?

372
00:51:08.244 --> 00:51:17.275
Well, I guess it depends on how quickly we have a description of new parasol, and we won't have title to new parasol if the city's holding onto the whole piece while they're building the road.

373
00:51:18.085 --> 00:51:29.605
Could would it could, could we do like, a, can we draft the purchase agreement to be contingent on cities convenience of, of certain properties you know, something, you know, somehow described?

374
00:51:29.664 --> 00:51:42.414
Yeah, we could do, like, we could certainly do a draft contract and have placeholders in there or contingencies built in, for the final description, and contingent upon LTC getting title to that to that land.

375
00:51:43.074 --> 00:51:46.224
And we already have the form of the contract that we wanna use.

376
00:51:46.224 --> 00:51:59.514
Anyway, I'm I'm just Larry Bob, because of time where we're at the eleven th, hour now, they have to take title to the piece that's ultimately going back to Patel.

377
00:52:01.945 --> 00:52:14.364
They don't need to take we need to fill it first. That's the only thing that happened has doesn't hasn't seemed to understand you gotta it can't be conveyed until it's filled. We can't do filling work on public on private property.

378
00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:26.155
Can you do on the city property though but what if the city just retain titled? Can they not do that? And then just convey the piece directly divisions from the city or must it go through LTC?

379
00:52:27.775 --> 00:52:41.099
Well, I thought you're talking about new parcel. I am never mind. I forgot about Arctic ice. Okay. I don't have the map in front of me. So, nevermind, my, I'm okay. I get it. Okay.

380
00:52:41.664 --> 00:52:52.135
I know we're in the eleventh hour, I'm just thinking, you know, is it six and one half those? No. Okay. We could draft a very simple letter of intent then, of course, we need to go back to the board because we don't have authority to sign a letter of intent.

381
00:52:52.135 --> 00:53:02.335
We have authority to sign a per sale agreement or a melee and I could, because we have ninety percent of a contract drafted the sales new parcel to.

382
00:53:03.324 --> 00:53:13.405
Visions and we can put in the, you know, the contingencies here, you know, assuming we obtain title from the city. I think we can build that in there.

383
00:53:13.860 --> 00:53:26.724
And then, and then the all three agreements purchase sale agreements can get signed at the this at the more or less the same time. Sounds like visions isn't gonna sign the, the, the sale agreement to the city until everything's signed here.

384
00:53:28.494 --> 00:53:39.684
I think that's where we ended up because the exactly where we said that we were gonna do was this three way thing and it's not everybody's thinking this is a land swap, but it's not.

385
00:53:39.684 --> 00:53:48.864
It's it is three three purchase sale agreement. So, I think if we did, if we already have that, we can put the contingencies in for new parcel.

386
00:53:48.894 --> 00:53:59.545
I think that would satisfy there, you know, concerns and allows us to move forward. So, think of you a letter of intent. That's just an interim stuff.

387
00:53:59.545 --> 00:53:59.784
And,

388
00:53:59.815 --> 00:54:01.675
but if we're I do that interim step,

389
00:54:01.675 --> 00:54:03.414
if I forget,

390
00:54:03.414 --> 00:54:03.925
though,

391
00:54:04.465 --> 00:54:06.414
the one complicating is,

392
00:54:07.164 --> 00:54:08.545
if we were going to wait on the,

393
00:54:09.025 --> 00:54:09.594
the transfer,

394
00:54:09.594 --> 00:54:10.255
the city for the,

395
00:54:10.675 --> 00:54:17.094
there's a portion of for it's in a parcel three that's in the current divisions property.

396
00:54:18.565 --> 00:54:30.744
So you would have to then do the transfer and then you would need then, then you would need some kind of work agreement for work permit from the, from the, for the city. We need some kind of work permit from the L. D. C.

397
00:54:30.744 --> 00:54:44.635
or whatever to do to build around about, against something. Look, I I feel bad for the board. They're, they're, they're really watching sausage being made here. We could probably take this offline with.

398
00:54:44.875 --> 00:54:55.704
But I think everybody gets a feeling here a flavor of what, you know, the multiple moving parts. I think they had some times in her email.

399
00:54:57.324 --> 00:55:10.945
So, we'll an email back to her and yeah. Why don't we I mean, I think That'll be teams members. You can see what we're trying to do here. So we could pick it up. And Paul, I'm wondering if we could, I don't have to do the survey.

400
00:55:10.945 --> 00:55:25.315
I wondered if we could do the line of sight on this drawing cause it would be more accurate than, you know, the, the first one that we did, which was the, I'll try to get a Russian server out. But my gut feeling is a letter of intent.

401
00:55:25.315 --> 00:55:39.054
Is better, I mean, Dominic, after you understanding this, he suggested it to I just think because of the, whatever the confusion right now with the roundabout being built, and it needs to be a city project.

402
00:55:39.054 --> 00:55:41.965
They think that's the piece that makes some more complicated.

403
00:55:42.420 --> 00:55:46.525
You know, they're waiting for a boundary survey, but whatever, but we will take it offline.

404
00:55:50.215 --> 00:55:58.764
This is Alice, and I would just say if there's something that requires board action, if you think that there might be to alert, because we would have to call a special meeting for that.

405
00:56:03.054 --> 00:56:17.335
It sounds like Bob we might need if though, if it does go for that, the letter of intent that would require a board meeting a board action. Yeah, we would. So, yep, yes, we would and understood. I know. I know.

406
00:56:17.335 --> 00:56:30.474
We've canceled summer meetings. I understood. Yep. So just say we would know because then Jack would need to notice the meeting, and we would need to call much likely to in the main meeting. Okay. Got it.

407
00:56:32.070 --> 00:56:33.594
So, go, where are we there?

408
00:56:36.655 --> 00:56:48.985
So we're waiting, I believe, on funding and then we will move to coordinate with the sellers attorney to set up that closing date.

409
00:56:50.545 --> 00:56:54.235
But do we have an idea Jack of when that might be? I know you and I've spoken a couple times, but.

410
00:56:55.315 --> 00:57:07.974
I don't know if that's anything's changed change. At this point, there's only one person that knows that's got okay. Paul is doing, you know, being diligent and reaching out to Caitlin.

411
00:57:09.385 --> 00:57:24.235
Heather is trying to do what he can here. She's, you know, the, the consensus on heather's part, she's worked for the state and stuff in the past that because of the weight and just the lack of funding at the state has for this pandemic.

412
00:57:24.744 --> 00:57:38.965
That the other just, I think the feeling is and I can kinda guess it too, that they're just clutching anything that they can't grab onto. That's not super high priority. So we're still waiting.

413
00:57:38.965 --> 00:57:40.045
That's about all I can do.

414
00:57:42.775 --> 00:57:57.445
I am limping along paying interest, which is probably around fifteen thousand per month between the two. So we're just I'm, I'm kinda stuck. I, I can't buy anything.

415
00:57:57.445 --> 00:58:11.155
I've got a stack of bills. Sorry, Lisa and Paul, you know, I've had a stack of bills, you know, six deep from them. I've got other bills to be paying taxes, et cetera, water bills, but I do, I'm kind of stuck.

416
00:58:11.155 --> 00:58:17.875
I have limited capacity for what I need. So, I mean, as soon as I know, then everybody else will know.

417
00:58:19.710 --> 00:58:34.164
Okay, alright, I'm more Rosie. Yeah, I guess the only good news is the good news. There is Caitlin has been in direct communication with MBT and given MBT a level of confidence about the pain itself.

418
00:58:37.045 --> 00:58:48.085
I think that's good. And so I, I do think it's coming. I think we just was hoping it's not a partial payment, right? Alright.

419
00:58:50.335 --> 00:59:02.215
Parcel I think that's what that was intertwined with the visions. That's what I was hoping old business words that have landscaping maintenance.

420
00:59:02.215 --> 00:59:13.045
What's going on with well, Dave short was out with us when it was out on the side with Brian and Jack and Mike Mahoney and.

421
00:59:14.099 --> 00:59:23.635
I think we told him that nobody appeared prepared to do that right now, unless he did it. I'm sure he was happy with that.

422
00:59:25.255 --> 00:59:33.775
Yeah, I think he said he figured that was coming related. Update you.

423
00:59:33.894 --> 00:59:48.264
The mayor asked me to reach out to Bob, the scientists from our landscaping to get a quote from him, which I did and I'm still waiting for for his quote. I asked him for an hourly rate. I think he had been taking care of it before.

424
00:59:50.005 --> 00:59:55.554
So, we're gonna get a, we're gonna get it cleaned up on where the other, right?

425
00:59:56.579 --> 01:00:06.414
Somehow, yes. Okay. Is there anything else from a sales?

426
01:00:06.414 --> 01:00:21.204
Something I would just say just pointing out one that you and I are doing a, you're doing a media interview tomorrow. So, look for that, but also about the next meeting dates. That are proposed is normal to not have the July and August meetings.

427
01:00:25.074 --> 01:00:34.224
And then if there's anything, that there's an update of in we now have this process where this LBC update memo follows this agenda.

428
01:00:34.530 --> 01:00:47.605
So, if we have any updates, we can put that together and get it out to the LBC and in July or August. Perfect. We're gonna we're gonna need to meet to recommend the award for the word stem extension. Correct?

429
01:00:50.755 --> 01:00:58.704
That's a city of work, you know, it is a city war, but I do think this city's gonna want. I do think city is gonna want a recommendation from the DC.

430
01:01:03.505 --> 01:01:05.275
So, do we need a July meeting when.

431
01:01:09.985 --> 01:01:11.815
The second debates come in in the second.

432
01:01:21.474 --> 01:01:35.184
We just do a quick zoom meeting or WebEx meeting with everybody. We'll need to make it a full board meeting. Right? Maybe a five or ten minute one that maybe can get all the, your thoughts on all. The bids are lease out to everybody.

433
01:01:35.184 --> 01:01:48.565
And then we can have a quick right meeting. Unfortunately, we probably can't do it by email. So, maybe that would be July fifteen. Th, which is our normal meeting date if that or do you need that sooner? Paul?

434
01:01:50.094 --> 01:02:04.644
Well, no, I well, sooner the better. I mean, we would, we would want to we want to get them started as soon as possible, because they have to finish this year. Oh, once you receive it.

435
01:02:05.485 --> 01:02:19.164
Sorry. Then, why don't you just kind of send it out to the primary team and then I can, I can set something up from there. Okay. I know that. We for you. And whenever you're in a comfortable position. Yep. Okay.

436
01:02:19.465 --> 01:02:34.434
I know that July, fourth week, or whatever, but, you know, if people are going places. So, I guess the question is, if we could say, right now, if you got them in on that Thursday, would you be prepared for that following Wednesday?

437
01:02:34.434 --> 01:02:39.175
The of the meeting, and that way, we could put it on folks calendars. Good point.

438
01:02:40.284 --> 01:02:55.195
Yeah, oh, yeah, I'd probably be prepared, you know, Friday afternoon, you know, it's gotta do a big canvas and, you know, Monday. So, Friday, Monday is fine too if we can do Monday might be better.

439
01:02:57.355 --> 01:03:04.735
July six does that work for LTC members on the line? Make it work? Yeah.

440
01:03:07.650 --> 01:03:22.554
Okay, so we'll say Monday, July, so that way that way Jack doesn't have to we don't have to scramble for notices and such such. I don't know. It's a good idea. That is the regular meeting, right? So it won't be a special meeting.

441
01:03:24.925 --> 01:03:26.635
We'll probably have on their mind.

442
01:03:29.875 --> 01:03:40.315
We'll do a four o'clock. Same time. Sorry? Yeah, Monday, July six? Yeah. Okay. Four o'clock.

443
01:03:43.824 --> 01:03:57.594
Okay, anything else not I can't get a motion to adjourn since we don't have a quorum, so thanks everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

444
01:04:01.614 --> 01:04:03.264
Wakes up has left the meeting.