WEBVTT 1 "" (0) 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.386 Okay. Hey, everybody. 2 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:00:05.386 --> 00:00:06.771 Okay. 3 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:00:06.771 --> 00:00:23.125 Alright, do I get approval in the minutes March 1920 25. Ryan second. Second. On favor? Action sell primenod, who's got that? Bob? 4 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:00:23.125 --> 00:00:29.523 Yep, and I think everybody should have a resolution that Allison emailed and then I think. 5 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:00:29.523 --> 00:00:33.109 Yeah. 6 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:00:33.109 --> 00:00:51.690 Yeah hi. This is you've you've already approved this if you recall the corporations conveying the prominent and some adjacent properties to the city of Udicatt, the city already has a control of the property via license agreement. 7 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:00:51.690 --> 00:01:10.770 And the license agreement will expire upon conveyance of the property because this is a below fair market value conveyance, procedures the corporation had to follow up in when we originally approved this I I can't recall October or November of last year. 8 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:01:10.770 --> 00:01:27.000 The corporation had NO money to perform an appraisal and appraisals required by law whenever we dispose of property by negotiation. Though we tried to be more accurate than an appraisal and use the cost approach, which was our. 9 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:44.640 Ten or ten to $15 million worth of grant proceeds that were spent on the property over the last several years remediating the property, putting in the bulkad and the the trails and the pavement areas, the parking areas, the landscaping and things like that. 10 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:01:44.640 --> 00:02:04.640 And we submitted the notice to the authority budget office that the fair market value was it's using the cost approach. The authority budget office rejected our attempt to, to satisfy the statute by using the cost approach because they said the law requires an appraisal and they can't find any. 11 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:35.540 Any exceptions to that and they're, they're not incorrect. So somehow Jack found some money then to get an appraisal, the appraised value came back at approximately 200 $222000. So we are, the board we were now putting in the fair market value at 220000. The board's being asked to resolve again to convey, for $1 for something that's being. 12 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:02:35.540 --> 00:02:53.970 That's the valued at $222000, assuming the board approves of the reapproves of this, we will then submit a new notice to the authority budget office, with this new dollar amount, we have to wait 90 days and then we can consummate the conveyance with the city later this summer. 13 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:02:53.970 --> 00:03:09.990 On that and so the action is to to reapprove of the sale of the prominent property to the City of Euica for the below fair market value conveyance where the fair market value is estimated at $220000. 14 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:03:09.990 --> 00:03:31.535 Also we're gonna do that today? Yeah, so that's on the agenda today, we're gonna prove the sale. Yep, for $220000 for a dollar. Okay. Do we have to justify the difference Bob or have we? Well we have an exhibit. 15 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:03:31.535 --> 00:03:56.772 Yeah, by law we're supposed to do that exhibit via the resolution gives the justification really it's the corporation isn't empowered to run a prominod. The corporation doesn't have money to maintain the the property or you know ensure it's more appropriately be used as a city park resource and that's consistent with the purposes for which the corporation was created, so that's the justification. 16 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:03:56.772 --> 00:04:14.840 Good, I just want to get that on the record. Alright. Yeah. Nobody's got any questions. Can I get a motion? All in favor? Good. All right Mollog Valley Garden, any updates? 17 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:27.646 I'm not. Everything's in process yet go ahead Bob and Bob and Melanie have gotten information to Rob's attorney George Mirad, and I believe the ball's in their court, right? Bob and Melanie? 18 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:04:27.646 --> 00:04:54.760 Yeah, that's right. The idea from the board from last meeting that purchaser agreed to was rather than having two lois combine it into one and get more clarity on the grant proceeds and whether or not the 33 building would be sold with or without grant proceeds. We, we re sent our red lines to their originally proposed two lois. 19 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:04:54.760 --> 00:05:11.234 A couple weeks ago, I spoke with I emailed communicated with Rob's attorney last week who was looking at the documents and was going to get comments to us, have not received it, have not received those comments. 20 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:05:11.234 --> 00:05:36.709 Okay. 17 building that we Brian, did you hear him from South at all? I talked to him today or just asked about grants kind of ran down, you know, just like about the CFA and timing and stuff trying to manage that just you know just try to walk him through and hold his hand as much as possible. I said I'd talked to Brian and then we can. 21 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:05:36.709 --> 00:05:51.929 And, you know, kind of work out any other grants that might be available. So he said thanks very much for the call, you know, very helpful and provided me with a good amount of a bunch of information, so he's definitely mobile flow. Yeah, yeah. 22 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:05:51.929 --> 00:06:09.227 Bob and Melanie are looking for his attorney's name, but she hasn't given yet. Okay. Okay. I'll call him tomorrow and get it. Okay. All right DSA one, anything that. 23 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:06:09.227 --> 00:06:28.699 DSA one, the the inspection period has passed. It ended on 1 April, the buyer is now required to proceed to closing and you'll recall at the last meeting we the board agreed to extend that closing date by six by 16. 24 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:06:28.699 --> 00:06:33.966 Three days, which takes us to 27 June. 25 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:06:33.966 --> 00:06:34.867 Okay. 26 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:06:34.867 --> 00:06:45.692 We did, we didn't reach out to Rob Helpman to get a status on when he thought closing might occur, but we did not get a response from him because he's on vacation. 27 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:06:45.692 --> 00:06:53.633 And have we secured any assurances that he's got the funding commitment? That was the thing from my perspective. 28 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:06:53.633 --> 00:07:16.719 It doesn't really matter because if he if he didn't, if he didn't, he, he had to approve, he had to terminate the contract by 1 April if he didn't meet his condition. So now he's required to move forward. So that the funding contingency is NO longer there. He did not provide proof if that's what you're asking. 29 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:07:16.719 --> 00:07:27.101 Yeah, just curious as to whether or not it's security whether it's pertinent or not to know if you guys fun. 30 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:07:27.101 --> 00:07:37.572 When's he back from? I know they were in conversations. Oh, when is he back from vacation? I believe next week. Okay. 31 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:07:37.572 --> 00:07:44.599 So let's reach out and see if he's, if he's got it and then we can get it out to everybody. 32 "7162****28" (996755200) 00:07:44.599 --> 00:07:53.275 Yeah, I don't know if he's under any obligation to share it with us, but I will certainly ask him when his lender will be ready to close if in fact, they're using a lender. 33 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:07:53.275 --> 00:07:59.197 Okay. All right. Jones chemical? 34 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:07:59.197 --> 00:08:09.209 They actually reached out again, to inquire to make to make sure we're still intruder by in the property, which of course we are. 35 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:08:09.209 --> 00:08:26.459 And, they, we've been waiting for the ESD grant disbursement agreement. There were a couple of outstanding items that this team had been chasing, but Paul can chime in here, but everything has now been satisfactory. 36 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:08:26.459 --> 00:08:46.459 It says factorily submitted to empire state development for them to reimburse so that we can then purchase the property. So long, long story short, but we have, we told them that they're being patient, and Melanie and Bob have already started an LOI, but we wanted to make sure that. 37 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:08:46.459 --> 00:08:52.535 We got the grants disbursement agreement straightened away before we move forward and it looks like that has been resolved. 38 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:08:52.535 --> 00:09:11.659 Yeah, I got a call today from them looking for a routing number right Jack reached out to them and but let's give you a timeframe jack. Probably review by a week or so and then funding in three months, so sometime in July. So. 39 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:09:11.659 --> 00:09:32.659 Yeah so Paul and I I'm gonna I requested a call with the woman tomorrow at 10:00. Hopefully she responds. I I don't know my other phone with me and then I'll probably bring in Paul on the phone call and just, you know, see if we can push that along just all that we've been waiting for on an unguide. 40 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:09:32.659 --> 00:09:59.388 The amount of time with John that said that or this lady? No, John did. But she's the treasurer something. So I don't understand cause it refused us you know it's not like they have to re review what they just reviewed, but they wrote the thing but I don't know, sometimes it depends on their board meeting, right? They have to they can't say the board meeting, so I don't know what the timing of that is. If that's June and not May then I. 41 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:09:59.388 --> 00:10:04.633 I guess. It's usually in June Paul, I think, so that's probably what it is. Yep. 42 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:10:04.633 --> 00:10:15.895 We're stuck with that, that's probably the the true reason. Yeah they haven't passed the state budget yet, guys. Right. I know. 43 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:10:15.895 --> 00:10:19.128 So nobody hold their breath. 44 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:10:19.128 --> 00:10:48.928 No, that's that's really, that's really what it's all yeah yeah so so we'll have to deliver that news to john's chemical, I guess at some point if that pulls up, so. Okay. Yeah reaching out for our number it's just not maybe right we'll get the money now exactly. Meaning we won't get gray more gray here. 45 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:10:48.928 --> 00:10:58.712 If you learn something Jack, we could, we can our regularly schedule biweekly calls next Wednesday so you can just update us then and we'll, and then I'll update John's chemical. 46 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:10:58.712 --> 00:11:13.471 Okay, sounds good. Any good? Just right, just when the meetings continue and we've been focused a little bit more on how to screen the substation. Their their schedule moved out another year. 47 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:11:13.471 --> 00:11:15.130 Yeah, right Lisa? Yeah, yeah. 48 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:11:15.130 --> 00:11:17.748 20, once it end now 20. 49 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:11:17.748 --> 00:11:20.992 Yes. Yeah, I believe so, yeah. Yeah. 50 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:11:20.992 --> 00:11:48.209 So, you know, so anyway, we're working through that. Maybe we'll get, you know, they haven't. Last time we talked about screening at one point they said that's an extra cost and we'll have to try to get money elsewhere, but they haven't been lately their designers have been on the phone and they're they're getting this information and they've seen to be entertaining the, you know, the idea of paying for it under the project. So hopefully that's the case, you know. 51 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:11:48.209 --> 00:12:06.629 Other than that, yeah, we just been sharing the trail network with them because that's the next thing. So it may or may not require a small easement from them. So we're we're we're looking into that and we discovered anything else on that? 52 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:12:06.629 --> 00:12:29.768 Not much, you know, I just I was checking Mark Sockellaski about if you pulled the iceders, not quite sure if I got a straight answer, but he didn't he didn't. I yeah, he's like, he said, No worries, I think he said to me. So that means NO, but I'm gonna get on it within a day. 53 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:12:29.768 --> 00:12:33.510 I spoke with him. 54 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:12:33.510 --> 00:12:49.379 Snowing today so we should also talk about the gates coming down and center. Yeah we need to plan, yeah, I don't know, we should probably I think we need a meeting because I'm not quite sure meet on site with Mark? 55 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:12:49.379 --> 00:13:06.959 Yeah, Camino set with Mark but it's really about the mayor because the mayor wants them down as soon as possible. Okay, he does he wants to know, but there was talk on one of our bi weekly calls about using the fencing to surround yes, the building. If the mayor wants everything down, he doesn't want to open the. 56 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:13:06.959 --> 00:13:24.269 1st year open during the day and close at night and lock it up. If he wants to open open, open, open, then yeah, we'll just our engineers have come up with a plan to scriptage and put it around there. Okay. Hold off on a meeting. 57 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:13:24.269 --> 00:13:44.269 Cause I'll see him tonight, I can if he if I guess all we needed from him was the fact that Mark or Mark. Yeah, see if he's willing to do it, I guess if he's his courses will do it, then we'll give them something yeah is there a, is there are people going into that building, is there a way just to, you know, screw some. 58 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:13:44.269 --> 00:14:01.439 Add lots on it and just try to shut it up a little bit. Yeah, secure it so we're not not you know said well there's you know when he went to do the appraisal, there's people in there, I don't want to go so doesn't help anybody UPD is supposed to go in there and see the. 59 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:14:01.439 --> 00:14:27.574 Get in there so that's something if you can mention it to whoever. I'm the opinion where there's a will, there's a way you could build a brick wall around all the buildings and figure out if we move the fencing, that fencing you know the gate a lot yeah and then we'll we'll have the temporary fencing that's around the two buildings now. 60 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:14:28.617 --> 00:14:52.639 They can come picked it up, it was a two year contract or something. I'll have to see if we have enough plans to go around 17 to. But we'll, we'll, we'll figure that out, a plan sheet, give it to Mark and have it's forced to do it. Yeah, was it a date? 61 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:14:52.639 --> 00:15:14.899 5 June in the afternoon I believe. Yeah. What day is, what day is it 5 June, is it a Friday? I don't know. It's a Thursday. Oh, ok, great. Okay. Thursday. What time. 62 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:15:14.899 --> 00:15:28.605 It's late afternoon I think. Yeah I wanna say it was like three to five. 63 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:15:28.605 --> 00:15:31.745 Right it's the Harbor, Brian? 64 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:15:31.745 --> 00:15:51.209 Yes, the chamber of commerce can receive the grant from I believe theory canal weight commission. So they're, they're largely heading it up working with the city. You want me to just send everybody's email to Carrie so we can get online, I'll do that. Sure. 65 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:15:51.209 --> 00:16:11.069 That'd be helpful. Yeah, I'll send I'll get to. Well I know that Maryanne has told us right that we're not gonna get to personal agreement until the projects. 66 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:16:11.069 --> 00:16:27.299 But so but meantime, I think next meeting will carry the hopefully other professional services agreement ready for the board and we can make them contingent on the GDA, but yeah, but that'll do. 67 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:16:27.299 --> 00:16:43.289 You'll have two agreements in front of you. One will be Lisa you know EDR ramble, and that will be for designing utilities cutting the 33 building and providing construction management. 68 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:16:43.289 --> 00:16:59.219 And then you'll get the, from the structural engineer that's also doing work for MB mbg's architect, but the structural engineer will, they'll provide a package for the ground improvement. So it'll be ground improvement where the new building's gonna be. 69 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:16:59.219 --> 00:17:19.219 You know, pad and that was gonna be designed by that structural engineer, so you'll have two professional service agreements to approve, so under that and those those are accounted for in the grant and it's a hundred percent grant, NO match. So, I'm gonna use. 70 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:17:19.219 --> 00:17:37.919 Oh, great. So that and then separately to the city, EDR Ramble will provide professional service agreement for design for the Canal Corp. And Canal Corp has provided a. 71 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:17:37.919 --> 00:17:59.230 An agreement template for each of the funding elements Stephanie and corporation council is reviewed. She's had NO issue with it, so I gotta get back to Canalport and let him know. So hopefully they can finalize those and that's great. Let me take the timing on that is. Yeah. 72 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:03.376 But. 73 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:18:03.376 --> 00:18:26.339 Unfortunately I think we're in, you know, I'm hoping this year, but I think they were looking to yeah let it go through. Yeah, they they put a deadline on us we're gonna get as much done as possible, you know, might hopefully we can do a false start and then go out and spring, you know, finish the spring, but they put a deadline Corp of 31 December 2026. 74 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:18:26.339 --> 00:18:45.892 Right yes yeah so that has to be done by end of next year then but yeah of course Desney is soon as you know rush. Yeah so yeah alright anything else we need to talk about? 75 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:18:45.892 --> 00:18:47.071 No. Yeah. 76 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2058321408) 00:18:47.071 --> 00:19:02.111 There's a next three meetings lined up with nothing else and get a motion to adjourn. I guess. Sorry. Oh favor. Thanks everybody. Likewise, we didn't start until like five after. 77 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (1187744000) 00:19:02.111 --> 00:19:05.880 I know.