WEBVTT 1 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.696 Right. 2 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:00:07.411 --> 00:00:08.794 Let's. 3 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:00:08.794 --> 00:00:33.990 Go ahead. Yeah usually it gives a timing, you know where it's going 1 s 2 s 3 s. Just don't record the meeting number against October 1520 25. 4 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:00:33.990 --> 00:00:49.680 This will help you with the last two things in your giant. 5 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:00:49.680 --> 00:01:07.590 Yeah so we left for the day to work which just to refresh everybody's memory, the work consistent of round improvements under the future building which is. 6 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:01:07.590 --> 00:01:26.580 Done by a practice called Rigid Inclusions where they could rock out where the building would be. Also part of that was some footings work that would be done replacing footings in areas where peers and walls would be some of the footings work was done. 7 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:01:26.580 --> 00:01:45.330 The other part of this was simply water and sewer extensions and then some devilation of some old packrick pants out there that kind of get the miles to get out the way. So. 8 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:01:45.330 --> 00:02:05.330 Bits went out, they were due back last week on Thursday. We had three bitters, construction, and suns, and fight construction. The bits were relatively close, they ranged, the base bits range for. 9 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:02:05.330 --> 00:02:23.670 The 1.15 to 1.37 low visitor was project construction, and based at his basement price, we're able to also. 10 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:02:23.670 --> 00:02:39.870 Within the dance the construction budget could award also alternate one, which was pure footings. Yeah, thank you for bringing that up. The alternates were very different. 11 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:02:39.870 --> 00:02:58.050 So I did make a point of calling the owner of construction and just make sure that he's willing to do the work. You know, we told him we likely will award an alternate one with the base bid, and we need his confirmation that he's gonna. 12 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:02:58.050 --> 00:03:18.050 Look at that spread on an alternate tube. I know it was crazy. Yeah, so, I guess, you know, the construction from the paperwork we saw, you know, they provided. 13 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:03:18.050 --> 00:03:36.450 Projects and qualifications and being the low price, they are the most qualified response responsive bidders, so we would make the recommendation to awards construction for the budget. Yeah. 14 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:03:36.450 --> 00:03:55.860 We need to adjust some of the contingency allowances to make sure it stays under like when we look at the contingency allowances, about 90 in essence it's about a hundred thousand cause there's some contingency unit prices is when we award alternate one, we go over by 30000 with the contingencies. 15 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:03:55.860 --> 00:04:11.370 We need to reduce our contingency allowances a little bit to make sure I'm not concerned about that. So our contingency will warn as is and then we'll adjust your change order, you know, if necessary, but. 16 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:04:11.370 --> 00:04:28.919 But in the yeah now this is really good news to be able to do this work and also to want to get is very good, you know, and we're already in in the. 17 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:04:28.919 --> 00:04:56.255 In the budget for Ramble to do the inspections out there. We have special inspections for the rigid inclusion portion because especialty work CME, geotechnical, as a sub to us will go out there and do the inspection as when the inclusion work is going in, so. Yeah, so the recommendation would be to award to them and and it might be better Bob, you wanna run through the the resolution for award? 18 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:04:56.255 --> 00:05:11.759 Sure sure Rob. Paul. Yes, so the the resolution is authorizing the the co the Harbor Corporation energy, the two construction contracts with a selected low bidder. 19 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:31.229 It's authorizing Vin to negotiate and execute those contracts. The con however, the, there will be three conditions, the construction contracts will be conditioned and it's in section five on page three of your resolution if you want to read it. 20 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:05:31.229 --> 00:05:51.229 The conditions, the three conditions are, that the corporation obtains funding acceptable to the corporation to permit the corporate, the project to be undertaken. The execution of purchase and sale agreements acceptable to the corporation with Mohawk Valley Garden Corporation for whom the project at. 21 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:05:51.229 --> 00:06:07.289 So contemplated herein has been specifically designed and three, any other terms or conditions required by the corporation so related there too. So I I I think you all know that this corporation is funding. 22 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:06:07.289 --> 00:06:27.289 The, the work, it will be reimbursed, but it's a reimbursement grant for that work, but it needs to obtain its own funding, in the 1st instance and I know then is is working on on getting some funding from some of the local banks. So that's, that's a condition to to. 23 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:06:27.289 --> 00:06:58.939 Entering into this construction contract. The other requirement is that we do have that executed purchase sale agreement with Mohawk Valley MVG folks, particularly because this this work was specifically designed for the MVG project, so right, you wouldn't want to start this work or, you know, even complete the work, and then MVG never undertakes its project and then we, you know, end up with a new end user. 24 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:06:58.939 --> 00:07:19.592 Who doesn't have any use for the work that was just done. So we've put and then finally any other terms and conditions that we might, that the corporation we might require as we kind of dive into this a little bit more and in concluding the the MVG purchase sale agreement negotiations. 25 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:07:19.592 --> 00:07:31.469 And I might just clarify and I did mention that there instead of one construction owner contractor contractor just there's two. The reason was we were gonna phase this work with the utilities 1st and then. 26 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:07:31.469 --> 00:07:47.249 Improvements. We've been it together, but there's two simply two construction agreements because there's two engineers of record. Constructional engineer did not work for us, it works directly for development corporation as did ramble, so. 27 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:07:47.249 --> 00:08:04.709 So we just, because it's two different engineers of record, there's just two separate contracts to sign. It doesn't change anything else, same bit price, same everything, same contractor, the contractor will simply sign two different agreements, one for the extensions and one for them. 28 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:08:04.709 --> 00:08:22.229 So I wouldn't I don't know how much pre work they really need to do. The 1st thing out of the gate is the ground improvement work and that initially we don't have a schedule yet from a contractor, but that was that's especially sub coming in. 29 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:08:22.229 --> 00:08:38.579 They were supposed to come in in the beginning of January. It'd be great if they can come in December but, you know, I think they were planning to being be here in January. All right. Weather doesn't weather doesn't hamper any of that? 30 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:08:38.579 --> 00:08:54.419 They've already put their all the weather conditions were in the contract, so you know they they normally, they can do winter work, it's a little slower, you know, and then but it's all in here and then it'll still removal has to do, you know, but it's. 31 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:08:54.419 --> 00:09:11.309 You know, the the certain things they need to do in the route for it to work and if that's all already in this one they start they'll keep doing it regardless of the weather. That's right. Any other questions? Option. 32 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:09:11.309 --> 00:09:26.819 Hello? Yeah. And your package is various reports, annual reports, procurement reports. 33 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:09:26.819 --> 00:09:42.329 Along with various documents and also the audit? Audit bylaws. Yes. And in the bylaws are very, are many of the different. 34 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:09:42.329 --> 00:09:59.129 Oh, the different policies that are in the in the bylaws. Bob and I had talked about taking them out at some point, but unfortunately that's due to other business stuff. 35 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:09:59.129 --> 00:10:16.409 Haven't had that chance, so which will blower policy disposition policy along those lines. Any changes from fire policies? No, yeah, it's a lot of boilerplain. 36 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:10:16.409 --> 00:10:34.799 Brian puts together the operations and accomplishments and stuff on a very timely basis, so I appreciate that. Wow. He speaks arcasting. Gotta have some weavity there. 37 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:51.989 Any questions on the documents? And again, if the audit is is pretty clean, even has looked at it, there's NO notes or comments, you know, that are, you know, against them to what we're trying to do and the sales there. 38 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:10:51.989 --> 00:11:11.519 So corrected a big loss but as part of the annual report, there is personal property sale or acquisition and also real property, so we didn't have anything in this period. 39 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:31.519 But next year. Oh, the audit's probably in the $8500 range, maybe nine. Yeah, I mean but we try to be as yeah pretty much we try to be as efficient as we can with the. 40 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:48.929 You know with providing information for the auditors and making sure that the folks are clean. Right, there's NO questions with documents. So. 41 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:11:48.929 --> 00:12:07.319 The update has come out with an offer to take out MVT. It's unscureable. 42 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:12:07.319 --> 00:12:23.399 Not taken any collateral or anything, put the awkward forward. They didn't reject it and they're running out the black hole mentioned here tomorrow Friday. 43 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:40.799 So I think we're gonna, we're gonna get out of there. The approval was for four 60. We owe at 560I think just in principle, total was around seven 80. So that's what we should do. 44 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:56.459 Should have an answer tomorrow or Friday. I'll pass it on to everybody and that'll help us with all the good contingencies in the where we had to get through MBT also, so we'll make this a much cleaner. 45 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:12:56.459 --> 00:13:12.449 So once we say once we sell the and the adjacent property secured by so when he closes it'll pay off. Thank you. 46 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:13:12.449 --> 00:13:31.379 So the beginning when the guys starting to work, ok? Are we gonna close on that she's property before they start the work? I thought he was saying once the work's complete. Okay. And the bank understands that, ok. 47 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:13:31.379 --> 00:13:48.869 They're doing it as a community because always yeah support of the community and stuff. But to the point contingency that we just agreed to requires that a purchase is approved purchase and sale agreement be in place. 48 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:13:48.869 --> 00:14:06.539 Before the work starts. So like God forbid something happens and they back out, we're gonna be screwed again. They thought the bank before they made the commitment, they were so I'm just asking for my own reaching out to him. 49 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:14:06.539 --> 00:14:24.119 Yeah and and these contract documents reflected 8 December date for notice of proceed. So hopefully if everything will definitely. 50 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:14:24.119 --> 00:14:40.169 Oh. Project updates, 17 building I made one call to sell in the time period since the ladder was set. 51 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:14:40.169 --> 00:15:00.169 By you by the board and he he said he was working with a new architect and, you know, he underst seemed like he understood was in the ladder he had some questions, you know, we talked a little bit more about blood plane, you know, seems to be an area where he gets confused, but. 52 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:15:00.169 --> 00:15:17.279 Talked a little bit about that. So I don't know, he didn't seem anxious. What's the deadline we said 15 December. So, what I would suggest that we do just again. 53 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:34.769 So we all know a week or so before, make a phone call and tell them, hey, good. This is the deadline if you don't have your own have it in, it is what it is. So nobody could say anything, you know what I mean? We gave them enough chances now and that's it. 54 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:15:34.769 --> 00:15:52.859 I'll give him a call next week just as a follow up from my end. All right. In the back of my mind I don't. Yeah, you would think, I don't know if you wouldn't think he would have been you might see the draft by now, right? I would think what you would think so. 55 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:15:52.859 --> 00:16:08.729 So now what happens after that? Now it's open forbid, we come up whatever we want. He can still bid on it again, right? But he doesn't have 1st crack, right? There we go. 56 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:16:08.729 --> 00:16:25.229 But make sure he gets every chance he can and that's it. 57 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:16:25.229 --> 00:16:42.959 Alright, Jones Chemical. So we've been we have talked We did an introduction with the city corporation council and the vice President. 58 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:16:42.959 --> 00:16:58.409 That was a very good call, so I I don't really have much about I don't know where Stephanie is, but I know she's working through it but Tim didn't press her on time frame or anything, you know. 59 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:16:58.409 --> 00:17:13.949 Although, you know, we do need that property transferred before construction, so, you know, we get into the beginning of, you know, we gotta hope that it gets done before spring. So yeah, so the city's working on that. 60 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:17:13.949 --> 00:17:30.509 We did learn a lot about the remediation and good and bad. I haven't talked about this, but they they think they're gonna be done with the remediation but with final reports in early two to 2020 7th so it'll, it would. 61 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:17:30.509 --> 00:17:45.599 Create a much better situation for construction out there, but if they're done done and now. So I'm thinking of kind of maybe phasing the work with the with the nightmare, and so we would do. 62 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:17:45.599 --> 00:18:02.489 It's a lot of demolition, more demolition than we thought out. There's a lot of old building foundation have cropped up. So I think of doing part of the work and then looking for a great infrastructure to finish it. But the, the part of the work that we would do would be to improve the roadways around there. 63 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:18:02.489 --> 00:18:19.469 Access aprons inside their clearing and rubbing in those areas lowering of the monitoring wells when they're done. So that would allow temporary parking, but we just won't have a new circuit till we get another grand, but. 64 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:18:19.469 --> 00:18:38.819 There's a lot, there's a lot to do in here. So we're gonna we're gonna talk to and see if they'd like to phase it again. There's plenty of I still think we might, it might result in a little bit of savings, but we can move money around into cultures and to and up to other things. 65 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:18:38.819 --> 00:18:58.739 That are wouldn't be covered by the grant but so a little bit of changes there's this John's chemical be converted to the event center. That's the ultimate goal. But you know it's just like everything out there, everything's complicated by cleanups. 66 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:18:58.739 --> 00:19:15.599 Okay, so there'll be a little bit more. Our point was going to buy this property originally and then transfer it over to the city. But what we did was we took the and paid back the city of the $90000. 67 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:31.169 The the 02:40 $5000 interest payments. We paid the city off with that, so now that money is sitting into an account for the purpose of then buying this so instead of trans you know doing us buying then transferring, we're just gonna have the city buy itself. 68 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:19:31.169 --> 00:19:50.452 Being a lot cleaner so we've given them the money that they need to to go through with that and that closing process. We just been more focused on the so that you know we're doing the trails on both sides. 69 "Bob" (1249783552) 00:19:50.452 --> 00:19:53.559 The link to the bridge. 70 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:19:53.559 --> 00:20:21.779 So we've bring we have this boat launch that we talked about as well on that side of the harbor away from the other things that were interfering on the, you know, where the launch was. We looked at that area couldn't do it, so it's on the other side with national grid. They've been, they've been very productive calls I think Dana signed up for substation coordination, but now she's like doing everything. 71 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:20:21.779 --> 00:20:38.069 So, you know, we're looking there's a small triangle piece of property that will need an easement, in order to put the boat lodge in. And where does work, that's the next thing we're working through with national grid. There's some paperwork for you. You got it real estate. 72 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:20:38.069 --> 00:20:55.619 Yeah, she is. She'll have a forum tomorrow that she wanted some figures and then we have the server working on boundary description already. So we need that he's meant to build the boat launch and we just gotta work through the national Grid on securing, you know, private fencing around that area. 73 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:20:55.619 --> 00:21:13.709 Fencing price is going up because the fencings are, you know, around launch and everything so that NO national, we don't interfere with the process. Yeah, once the bolt launch. 74 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:21:13.709 --> 00:21:29.249 This is all, yeah, next construction season. Yeah yes. So yeah, I need your help, but again they've been good. We have to cross over some gast like. 75 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:21:29.249 --> 00:21:46.229 We haven't seen them yet. We're working for that. So I have not heard anything the SIR approval. 76 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:21:46.229 --> 00:22:02.789 So, will that new individual place there could be an opportunity to reach out for an update on. 77 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:22:02.789 --> 00:22:22.199 And then whether it's Q1 Q2, I would like to get some senior leadership within Belt, at least give him a flavor of where we're at, the desire is, give him some conceptuals so that. 78 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:22:22.199 --> 00:22:39.209 They're aware and have some broad stroke time frames as well so go blindside or someone to minimize surprises. So that's something that I think we I want to kind of initiate next year just even if something simple, high level. 79 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:22:39.209 --> 00:22:54.689 Just to give awareness, you think you don't have to work all of a sudden oh you work and the ground. 80 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:22:54.689 --> 00:23:11.159 Right now for sure right? Yeah, I think we well the dance pretty well canalt Corp we did. 81 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:23:11.159 --> 00:23:27.329 They cover the trails and they covered a whole bunch, so yeah I think we touched on all those. Branding oh yeah. RFP went out for branding. We we put it on the state contract recorder. 82 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:23:27.329 --> 00:23:45.059 Great proposals back ranging from few thousand dollars to six figures side, right? So we're going through those. 83 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:23:45.059 --> 00:24:02.519 Try make a decision. It did include the physical structure material for assign and all that too or just? It was graphic design plus a design forest. Okay, but that'll follow. 84 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:18.749 Yeah, so we'll need to coordinate. Okay. Anticipation of meeting the meeting at December. 85 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:24:18.749 --> 00:24:34.979 Yeah or just accept It's thinking everything's kind of a little off. 86 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:24:34.979 --> 00:24:53.339 When when would be our next meeting? 17 December or 21 January. So she sends it in the 16th, I think we're gonna need time to review and then the internal needs to review. 87 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:25:09.269 --> 00:25:27.149 Alright, so any other business, any other questions? One thing I did here on the radio today, we I think a lot of people like concern about the heart of that was about this county legislator, you know anything about it Sean? What was it? 88 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:25:27.149 --> 00:25:47.149 What did he say? I was just getting out of the car to her and say you know so and again I probably so I'd like starting in January and I probably have to work Brian and probably would let me know I think i. 89 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:25:47.149 --> 00:26:12.569 I need to work with america. I'd like to see as far as what we do with the harbor, like weekly or anything like that, that's got nothing to do with this one, right? That's not the city. Brian, is that correct? Like if you want to do something like say a what you know like month on a Monday get something to harbor or entertainment or something, that'd be through the city, not us, right? I'm just using an example. Right. Because I'm getting a lot of lot of people. 90 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:26:12.569 --> 00:26:29.189 Love the harbor and like right off the bat they wanted to do something for Harbor, you know, like for Halloween, they want to do this stuff. I just want to make I'll get with them that and work with him and get a schedule on what we're gonna do. I think it's a permit through the city Clerk's office just like another city carbor. Right. 91 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:26:29.189 --> 00:26:45.989 Yeah, but I'm saying I'd like to see like I've talking to him already where we did something, I don't want to say like what the truck, but something like that where we have something every week for, you know, or at least once a month, you know, starting in May. We got that beautiful place. 92 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:26:45.989 --> 00:27:05.989 We need to do something there, you know what I mean? I agree. My only question is a whole lot of parking and we don't have any I get it. I get it. So you gotta get right. Okay. But people don't want to hear that. You know what I mean? 93 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:27:05.989 --> 00:27:26.249 I mean I'm not gonna tell porter parties that you can get porter parties. So I mean, I don't think it would be crazy to do some. Right, and also when you have the food trucks, they're paying money for their permits. 94 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:27:26.249 --> 00:27:44.669 That would pay to do some of that stuff, right? We need to we need to show it off, we need to do something, even if it's once a month, you know, or something where we have events there, you know, I mean, you've seen what the two events we did, the grand opening and when the orchestrator came that time, I mean it was packed. 95 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:27:44.669 --> 00:28:02.819 Got a beautiful place there and we, you know, need to I mean the parking thing is never gonna get better, is it? Yeah, we just talked about putting in right ok but still it's not gonna be enough for, I mean for the two events, I think a lot of people parked it in other businesses. And. 96 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:19.169 That's ok for the 1st two events, but that's gonna get old with some of those businesses quickly, right? We don't want to end up being a black eye on the harbor either. Right. Well, I talked to them, I talked to them I'm just I was just asking, is this where you discuss that or you discuss it with them? 97 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:28:19.169 --> 00:28:39.169 Okay, John do you think we should Legislate you about the harbor? Is this just somebody who's NO he he I listened to part of his interview, they asked, he talked about me in it and he's we're friends and that, you know, anything in the city, they usually come to me and he goes to them and. 98 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:28:39.169 --> 00:28:59.509 It wasn't a, it wasn't It wasn't think they asked him, what do you trying, you know, what do you want to accomplish, and he basically said I'd like to see you know for which something like that. I don't think it was a bad No I I think that just being backed elected, he's gonna have a lot of questions. 99 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:28:59.509 --> 00:29:23.989 He's gonna want to be updated on what's going on because he really doesn't know, but I think at the last, the next time we meet for our legislators, go in there we can just talk about it. See where he's at. You got two. Oh, ok. He probably won't do that until January though until he's worn out. Yeah. 100 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:29:23.989 --> 00:29:27.239 Oh, you don't have to. 101 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:29:27.239 --> 00:29:44.819 Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a nasty thing. It was more, he knows me, we worked before and blah blah blah on the software. I should come they should come on me by the comment. Okay. 102 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:29:44.819 --> 00:30:04.819 Take a quick presentation perfect. Being my cold heart You know how the bathrooms are just that your bathrooms are. 103 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:30:04.819 --> 00:30:24.989 Okay, sounds good idea, yeah. Okay. I got his number if he needed so. I was just gonna say bathroom, you know, we did. 104 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:30:24.989 --> 00:30:40.409 You didn't get the welcome center grant from Department of state. And, but we did because during a debrief we didn't have a chance to talk to them about it which they ended up loving it. The complication there is. 105 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:30:40.409 --> 00:30:56.969 They really, they don't like to do design and construction grants together so they really like, you know, they're encouraging us to put in just for design this some coming summer and then construction the following summer, but it's kind of moving slow, so. 106 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:30:56.969 --> 00:31:16.969 We gotta think about this, you know, the city SOMEHOWC somehow invest in some level of design for that welcome center ahead of time. So that would be a separate building that we would build there someplace, like for bathrooms, yeah, basically next to home to be. 107 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:31:16.969 --> 00:31:35.699 Welcomes you know we have a history part of that It'll into the trail system that's come, you know, from the canal trail into the site that that's working on with their new with the bridge project. 108 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:31:35.699 --> 00:31:54.899 That's the whole thing. Alternate to that could be depending on where cell goes or whether wants to continue to, you know, pursue private thing. The other thing is go seven, you know, you could make a decision to go seven make 17 a public building, put the vendor space in. 109 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:31:54.899 --> 00:32:28.480 And put the bathrooms in there. I mean so you got some options but you gotta start thinking about you know what what how you want to do that. Do you think something that's gonna either build either the new build or a retrofitting 17, at least we're part of it. You're I think both of them are a couple million Lisa, do you have Lisa, do you have the you have the rendering of the building? Welcome Center. It was proposed. 110 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.198 Did you share quickly? 111 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:32:31.732 --> 00:32:38.241 Keep talking, talk amongst yourself. 112 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:32:38.241 --> 00:32:46.197 I mean it's a cool little building that would be right at the entrance. Yeah. 113 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:32:46.197 --> 00:32:52.921 Yes, look at how fast I found that Brian. Let's see. 114 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:32:52.921 --> 00:32:58.939 The the sheet that has set up would be the nicest because it shows location too. 115 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:32:58.939 --> 00:33:10.356 Let's see, let's see, let's see. How did I do this? Window? Here we go. Share. Do you see that? 116 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:33:10.356 --> 00:33:15.060 Can you go up a little? Yep. Go. 117 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:33:15.060 --> 00:33:22.499 So this is the entrance in, here's that little blue area is the corner of the 33 building. 118 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:33:22.499 --> 00:33:42.499 If I can make this bigger. So the idea would become, and this is already here, so the idea would be to put it here next to the existing parking area, and then this is an actual building that we put into a park in the city of Gloversville, and it's got restrooms around the back. This is all open in these sort of. 119 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:33:42.499 --> 00:34:02.499 Our garage doors that go up, and or come down depending on what, you know, the heating, so it's kind of open space and there's actually space in here for a food vendor too. So when they opened this park actually they had a local taco place in here making delicious tacos and, you know. 120 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:34:02.499 --> 00:34:26.139 And then the bench is all around, so it's like a multi purpose building year round building actually that can be used for restrooms with food gathering spaces, you can rent it, e.g.. Yeah, it ca it came up pretty nice actually it's not that big. This is the dimensions of it, which you can see and I don't have the dimensions of it, but it's not terribly big. 121 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:34:26.139 --> 00:34:36.209 Yeah, so you see the location there it is it is a nice nice concept. What if we did, what if they did something like that where. 122 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:34:36.209 --> 00:35:05.020 You use part of the build almost something like where you put a like a restaurant or something in it and like if the city or the harbor tripped the building over you had it there and you rented it out kind of like we do with Valley View where like we used to do with the harbor down, you know, ok? And then the other part you made for, you know, a kai where people can rent kayaks in a bathroom and you well that's what this 1917. 123 "Lisa Nagle, EDR" (4050279936) 00:35:05.020 --> 00:35:13.459 This would be owned by the LDC and you could lease it out, yeah. Just exactly that, yeah. 124 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:35:13.459 --> 00:35:33.139 Right, we'd have to take the upkeep on it and all that too, so I mean, but it might be a good idea to broke it up, it's a big building, it's broken up so three or four different that people can talk in 17 in this new building. 125 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:35:33.139 --> 00:35:39.509 Back in a building like if like if cell doesn't put in any buildings there and nobody really comes in there and builds that. 126 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:35:39.509 --> 00:35:56.639 Why couldn't we take that, build the restaurant or build something out to somebody, they're gonna need their services there anyway. Is the bathroom there or put, you know, a bait shop, a canoe launch or something like that. Yes. It's all three of them. 127 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:14.069 I mean, I mean real realistically, how many restaurants do we really need down there? No, I think I think and that's why I'm just see this as you do this or you go the direction of 17 being. Right. But that's that's what she does the decision's gonna need to be made. 128 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:36:14.069 --> 00:36:31.709 Get in their future here, right? I mean, I I'd almost think you'd be better off with something, you know, like say like a losses or somebody who came in to rent it out that was out there and people in there have burgers barbecue and stuff like that I mean it might hurt the other burger guy up the road, but. 129 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:36:31.709 --> 00:36:49.679 I'm Crossed the way there that's what I'm saying is the people down there fishing and stuff, they're gonna have a high end restaurant and 33 might as well have something that's people can come and use every day, you know? It's just my you know. 130 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:36:49.679 --> 00:37:09.679 Everything costs money, I know, you know what I mean? What do you think to to redo that building? Something like that. What's how many million is that? 2 million all day long, 17 probably might get in the 3 million range because you know. 131 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.339 Too. That's not buying stuff for insight, right? 132 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:37:14.339 --> 00:37:32.669 Well, NO, I wouldn't I would hope that you can retrofit 3 million, you know. Is there grants you think that we could get is stuff available stuff we could give some? Right. But again, we gotta pay and then you pay the grant. It's just what you want to do with, you know, if you wanna go that direction with 17. 133 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:37:32.669 --> 00:37:50.639 And, you know, push off any kind of separate separate building welcome center, you know, but really kind of makes 17 the welcome center in the sense of public bathrooms and you know, those are the things you need to I don't know if I have a preference either way, I think you're both good idea. 134 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:37:50.639 --> 00:38:05.969 But you're gonna need all that stuff there. Yeah to make it. But you know, I mean 17 represented last revenue source, but I guess you get it in a different way through vendors and pieces. 135 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:38:05.969 --> 00:38:23.070 What you prefer? I think it's probably cheaper to build new than just to retrofit that building probably kitchens and bathrooms. I think you're right. But we can't do anything with it. 136 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:38:23.070 --> 00:38:40.680 Yeah, I'm turn it down or anything. Just a quick note, I've sent out a number of times the APO. 137 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:38:40.680 --> 00:38:57.090 Letter regarding ABO training as as is required by law. So I'll be sending it out again within the next week or so when I check the new dates that they have available takes you probably about 45 min. You need to be there and you know present. 138 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:38:57.090 --> 00:39:17.090 On your computer because they do take roll call, ask some questions. So if those who have not taken it would take it. Is that something you take every year I mean I took it in the every three years. Do you know if we're new or not? I have a list of everybody. Okay, so. 139 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:39:17.090 --> 00:39:21.270 Me email if I gotta take it. Yeah. Yeah, I sent it out in Maersk too. 140 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:39:21.270 --> 00:39:41.270 Idea people or the renewal agency people and it's just for the people that had to take it, so if I didn't get an email, I'm good. Correct. Okay. I'll make sure you get an email because I don't think I got it. And unless something changes in December, even if it doesn't change, ok. 141 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:49.620 Everyone on the computer, thank you very much. All right, thank you. Thanks everybody. Bye. 142 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (2035082496) 00:39:49.620 --> 00:40:02.280 What's the account, what's that other.